My Jambiya [need help]

kahnjar1 · 21st May 2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Devadatta

I guess the name for a belt is Hizam, anyone agree?

I can find reference to a belt being called Hizam in Sudan, but not in Arabia. I would expect that there is a specific name for a Jambiya belt, and that it is very likely to differ depending on the particular region, as with many things on the Arabian Peninsula.
Regards Stu
Further to the above after a bit more research, it would appear that the term HIZAM is also used in Yemen.
Attached is a link reference which I think will be interesting as it comments on the present situation re Jambiya belts in general.
http://www.yobserver.com/culture-and.../10018119.html

Alvaro · 22nd May 2010, 03:37 PM

so , whats more important for the yemeni men
is wealth based on the belt or more on the dagger itself?

lindylars · 23rd May 2010, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

...Further to the above after a bit more research, it would appear that the term HIZAM is also used in Yemen...

Like Stu mentioned earlier - I checked with my Yemeni friends and they said that "hizam" applies to both the belts for jambiya as well as generic belts.

They also mentioned that in practice the hizam have their own pricing scheme and CAN cost more than the jambiya itself...never having been to/lived in Yemen myself, nor never having seen my friends in Yemen I can't attest to whether or not they had a "regular" jambiya/hizam, "formal" jambiya/hizam or if some guys had one-hizam-fits-all jambiyas owned, etc.

I would assume that, like any other accessory, this would depend on personal taste/station/occasion (although I guarantee you that any self-respecting Yemeni male would only refer to a jambiya as a necessity vs. accessory).

Regards,
Ron

Michael Blalock · 23rd May 2010, 04:24 PM

Here is a web page describing the tablet woven belts.

http://www.lindahendrickson.com/yeme...-main-page.htm

Alvaro · 23rd May 2010, 07:53 PM

''There are several theories about the origin of the Jambia. There are historical facts, concerning the existence of the Jambia revealling that it used to be worn at Sheban times, in the Himiarite kingdom. They take the statue of the Sheban king (Madi Karb 500 bc ) as proof. This statue, which was discovered by an American mission in Marib in the 1950s, was found to be wearing a Jambia.''

I can't find a picture of this person, can anyone translate Madi Karb back in arabic? Maybe it will be easier to find a picture of him

Devadatta · 23rd May 2010, 08:53 PM

This person is shown at yemeni 50 rial banknote

Actually I saw somewhere at the web a very good photo of this statue with dagger very well seen. But I don't remember the source

You can see something at the left side of his belt reminding of a dagger

But it's shown much better at the original statue

lindylars · 23rd May 2010, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devadatta

Actually I saw somewhere at the web a very good photo of this statue with dagger very well seen. But I don't remember the source

Are we talking about the 200 riyal note?

Alvaro · 23rd May 2010, 10:37 PM

wow THANKS ALOT

My history teacher will be amazed.
but which one is the statue the americans found in 1950's ? the one from the 50rial banknote or from the 200 rial?

22nd May 2010, 03:37 PM	#2
Alvaro Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 8	so , whats more important for the yemeni men is wealth based on the belt or more on the dagger itself?

23rd May 2010, 04:24 PM	#4
Michael Blalock Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: dc Posts: 271	Here is a web page describing the tablet woven belts. http://www.lindahendrickson.com/yeme...-main-page.htm

23rd May 2010, 07:53 PM	#5
Alvaro Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 8	''There are several theories about the origin of the Jambia. There are historical facts, concerning the existence of the Jambia revealling that it used to be worn at Sheban times, in the Himiarite kingdom. They take the statue of the Sheban king (Madi Karb 500 bc ) as proof. This statue, which was discovered by an American mission in Marib in the 1950s, was found to be wearing a Jambia.'' I can't find a picture of this person, can anyone translate Madi Karb back in arabic? Maybe it will be easier to find a picture of him

23rd May 2010, 08:53 PM	#6
Devadatta Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 118	This person is shown at yemeni 50 rial banknote Actually I saw somewhere at the web a very good photo of this statue with dagger very well seen. But I don't remember the source You can see something at the left side of his belt reminding of a dagger But it's shown much better at the original statue

23rd May 2010, 10:37 PM	#8
Alvaro Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 8	wow THANKS ALOT My history teacher will be amazed. but which one is the statue the americans found in 1950's ? the one from the 50rial banknote or from the 200 rial?