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Old 20th April 2010, 01:51 AM   #1
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Very nice. A great honest piece. I'll bet that the stuff on the blade is grease, not varnish. But either way a solvent like acetone should remove it. If you can slip the rattan bands off the scabbard and clean it out, it will be good. If that's not possible, attach small solvent soaked pieces of cloth to a wire and clean it out. I've used a gun cleaning rod with bronze brush to good effect also.

You'll enjoy this piece. While not flashy, it's as good as they get!

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Thank you Steve for the tip to clean the sheat inside.

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Old 21st April 2010, 10:32 PM   #2
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Hello Detlef,

Good one - also like the mansala a lot! (I'd be even careful with shaking the dust from it since such old fabric can be pretty fragile...)

Seems that the blade is from the second half of the 19th c. (possibly later rather than earlier within this period, I'd believe); certainly laminated.

The fittings are Maguindanao with the asang-asang and hilt looking like somewhat later replacements. When you receive it, please check wether another asang-asang had been present on the upper gangya.

The scabbard looks old with nicely figured wood asking for cleaning. Seems like the wooden pins failed on one side at the throat (and perhaps the tip, too). Can probably be replaced but I'd consider leaving it as is. I wouldn't bother about the tip damage but another rattan ring will keep it tight if so desired. Be careful when drawing the sword though - old scabbards are rarely save to grip!

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Old 21st April 2010, 11:06 PM   #3
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Hello Detlef,

Good one - also like the mansala a lot! (I'd be even careful with shaking the dust from it since such old fabric can be pretty fragile...)

Seems that the blade is from the second half of the 19th c. (possibly later rather than earlier within this period, I'd believe); certainly laminated.

The fittings are Maguindanao with the asang-asang and hilt looking like somewhat later replacements. When you receive it, please check wether another asang-asang had been present on the upper gangya.

The scabbard looks old with nicely figured wood asking for cleaning. Seems like the wooden pins failed on one side at the throat (and perhaps the tip, too). Can probably be replaced but I'd consider leaving it as is. I wouldn't bother about the tip damage but another rattan ring will keep it tight if so desired. Be careful when drawing the sword though - old scabbards are rarely save to grip!

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Kai

Hello Kai,

thank's for comment!

Would you replace a optionally second asang-asang?

To be careful by drawing out sharp blades from old sheats I have learned time by time very painful!

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Old 22nd April 2010, 06:59 PM   #4
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I get answer from the seller about the provenance: He have bought it by an auction and the auction-house don't want to give informations about the presenter.
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Old 22nd April 2010, 08:03 PM   #5
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Here's the same wrap on a mid 20th century kris .
Your's has great patina .

Remember, any change to this kris (excluding the sacbbard ring) other than cleanup/conservation would change its character .
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Old 22nd April 2010, 08:32 PM   #6
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Here's the same wrap on a mid 20th century kris .
Your's has great patina .

Remember, any change to this kris (excluding the sacbbard ring) other than cleanup/conservation would change its character .

Hi Rick,

yes, direct the same style. Don't worry, apart from refitting the scabbard mouth and cleaning/etching the kris will keep it's original flair.

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Old 27th April 2010, 10:35 AM   #7
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I get answer from the seller about the provenance: He have bought it by an auction and the auction-house don't want to give informations about the presenter.
Hi Detlef,

Maybe the auction house can forward your emailaddress to the presenter.
If he/she doesn't mind he/she would contact you, and the auction house doesn't have to give informations about the presenter.
50% chance (if the auctionhouse will do the effort passing your emailaddress)...
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