I'd like to see cross cultural sundang melayu kerises

[milandro]

Originally Posted by Gavin Nugent

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I still struggle with modern keris, only in so far as misinformation and those mimicking other cultural materials.

There are thousands of "Malay" types that are modern Java made keris, made in the name of commerce.

They are bought in to Malaysia and sold on. The issue I am seeing more and more is many of these are being bought at the point of sale in Malaysia and then aged, mixed a little with other components, sometimes non regionally correct dress and sold to new collectors as old pieces over and over and over again...
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While I was researching the internet , I found , on YouTube, several videos, apparently all from Malaysia, made by makers (sometimes showing the forging process) of Melayu Sundang.

These are obviously newly made and seemingly made in Malaysia of course there may be others making them in Indonesia too, wherever there is money to be made people will try to make money.

I don't understand the language and so I can't tell what the people or voiceovers say about the krises and not even if they are attempting a sale or just describing some item. I won't therefore give any links. But anyone can look things up on Youtube by searching Melayu Sundang Keris.

There is a duo , for example, whom publishes videos under the channel Tenku Nara Paduka name, showing several blades, all obviously new and possibly for sale?

As far as I can tell from these videos the industry of keris making ( certainly of keris selling) is very alive there!

I don't see anything wrong there as long as they don't try to pass newly made kisses for old ones (which unfortunately also western dealers sometimes do)

I was interested in seeing examples and I tried to ask precisely for this with the title of this thread.


Again, my interest lies specifically with those krises that are not of the Moro type, but those which express a cross-over form between the pamor rich (and visible) Indonesian made kris and the moro kris.

[Sajen]

Sorry Alan,

I also count only 5 luk!

[A. G. Maisey]

I can understand that Detlef, one needs a background in creative accounting to find dollars where there are none, and the same seems to apply to the waves in a keris.

[David]

Originally Posted by milandro

I was interested in seeing examples and I tried to ask precisely for this with the title of this thread.
Again, my interest lies specifically with those krises that are not of the Moro type, but those which express a cross-over form between the pamor rich (and visible) Indonesian made kris and the moro kris.

Thank you Milandro, and that is exactly what i would ask this group stick to in this particular forum. Moro kris are meant to be discussed in the Ethno Forum.