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24th May 2022, 11:49 AM
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Very nice piece ulfberth. Congrats! I should've known someone from this message board got it. Very jealous.
 Is that indeed a green man on the pommel? |
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24th May 2022, 02:57 PM
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Thank you for you'r kind words Werecow !
Yes I believe it is " the green man" although a bit with a brownish black tan. Now that you mention it, I have not seen this type of pommel with the green man on it before. Although it's not an uncommon type of decoration, it appears hilts to and suits of armour from the same period. I did no know there was a collector who collects rapier this period in Leiden either. Here is a better picture taken in daylight, im not a good photographer certainly not with an 80 dollar cam. Kind regards Ulfbert |
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24th May 2022, 05:00 PM
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Congrats Dirk!
You might try outside pictures. In the shade if the sun is super bright. I'll be happy to edit your pics for you also. Can someone educate us on the history of "the green man"? |
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24th May 2022, 08:47 PM
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The Green Man is a human face, or sometimes a full figure with leaves for hair and often wrapped in vines and foliage. It's very common in church carvings from the middle ages and a Victorian era author used it as the basis for a theory of hidden pagan cults hiding within the medieval church. The truth is we have no idea what it symbolized to people of that time.
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25th May 2022, 03:25 AM
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By sheer coincidence I was watching this youtube clip and noticed a rapier with an almost identical hilt in the display case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjDVE06x_A0 |
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25th May 2022, 08:34 AM
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yes it is the same type of rapier and of the same period in the Metropolitan Museum.
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25th May 2022, 12:30 PM
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25th May 2022, 01:28 PM
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hey Dirk, congratulations on the beautiful rapier. From this point of view it is really a beautiful old and rare piece.
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25th May 2022, 08:53 PM
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What a beauty and very nice cleaned!! Congrats also from my site!!
Kind regards Andreas |
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26th May 2022, 12:47 PM
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Congrats with this rare and beautiful rapier Dirk.
you're right, I don't actually collect rapiers but for this rare one I could make an exception. after seeing your pictures, I regret not bidding further on this rapier.  best, Jasper |
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27th May 2022, 04:49 PM
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Casey , Werecow, Andreas, Markus, Jasper,
Thank you all for your kind words, I have learned that to older the items get, the more forgiving you need to be on condition. Looking back, I was too strict and not being realistic more than once concerning 16th c items, and i sold perfectly fine collection pieces because the condition was no good enough to my taste. Now im older and a bit wiser and won't make that mistake again if i dont have to. Kind regards Ulfberth |
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