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			The bottom one is definitely the 1803 pattern flank officers sabre. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	The top one is a non regulation (or possibly regimental pattern) sabre it could be a pre 1803 infantry officer, or a light cavalry dress sabre from between 1796 and 1820ish. It could also be naval or yeomanry from the same period. Without provenance or identifying marks there is no way to tell. Robert  | 
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