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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 19th September 2008, 06:21 PM
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Views: 10,038
Posted By Bill
Nice. Looks like the prong got bent in the wrong...

Nice. Looks like the prong got bent in the wrong direction.
Cato suggests the prong was to distract the opponent by raking against a exposed part of the body. While this may be true in combat, I...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 12th September 2008, 04:48 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 8,808
Posted By Bill
Very nice sword. I don't agree with the dating....

Very nice sword. I don't agree with the dating. More like 1940-60. I could see someone bidding over $300 for it but not much more. Guess it appealed to at least a couple of people.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 6th September 2008, 03:48 AM
Replies: 42
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Posted By Bill
Hi Kia, wasn't thinking this had to do with the...

Hi Kia, wasn't thinking this had to do with the tang at all but the area of the sword, the place, where the Jen stays. I don't know where exactly that is but was speculating the little square. & the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 5th September 2008, 05:40 AM
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Views: 33,787
Posted By Bill
another thought on this. Dead man's sword....

another thought on this. Dead man's sword. Captured or a fallen fellow warrior, the Jen would have failed the previous owner if killed in battle. Lack of metal/time & no lack of enemies could...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd September 2008, 09:07 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 33,787
Posted By Bill
Smile Very cool sword. How many dots total, can you...

Very cool sword. How many dots total, can you point them all out? I'll throw in my 2 cents of speculation.
The fellow that owned this was very superstitious, so some of the meaning may specific, as...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 12th August 2008, 01:03 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 11,526
Posted By Bill
Even nicer you got a "wooden case" with it. Can...

Even nicer you got a "wooden case" with it. Can you add some pics of that, it too looks like it's got some age. If the seller is correct & it came post war Japan it sure doesn't help figuring out...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 11th August 2008, 10:30 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 11,526
Posted By Bill
Very nice. Is the blade 23"? I think it is the...

Very nice. Is the blade 23"? I think it is the same source for the 18C passed down for sometime. If the blade is 23", it would be a surprise but I guess it would be the preference of the person that...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 3rd August 2008, 08:42 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 5,923
Posted By Bill
It's a Bagobo knife called a Sangi. I've seen it...

It's a Bagobo knife called a Sangi. I've seen it described as a work knife, woman's knife & a grass knife. I've seen only pictures of men carrying it, either slung from the shoulder or in the small...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 31st July 2008, 04:18 AM
Replies: 28
Views: 27,080
Posted By Bill
The two I have are not laminated tend to doubt...

The two I have are not laminated tend to doubt this one will be. Plenty of rail road tracks by this time.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th July 2008, 07:54 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 27,080
Posted By Bill
This is not a uncommon blade & from everything I...

This is not a uncommon blade & from everything I know it's a Maranao fighting kris. I have two with similar hilts. The two I have are almost identical & are the same as the one in this post. IMO the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th July 2008, 02:11 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 13,330
Posted By Bill
Bill, When you get a chance to take some more...

Bill, When you get a chance to take some more pics & open the new thread it would be appreciated. I would certainly think it is a early kris from what I can see. Doubt you could do much slashing...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th July 2008, 12:34 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 13,330
Posted By Bill
Hey Bill, Have you tried to see the tangs on the...

Hey Bill, Have you tried to see the tangs on the 18C's you have? The one with the single curve looks pretty old, that's the one that would be interesting to find out. Didn't you once mention knowing...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th July 2008, 06:18 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 11,969
Posted By Bill
Hi Nacho, According to Cato, it's a Maranao (fig...

Hi Nacho, According to Cato, it's a Maranao (fig 40) blade. If I were to guess on the sheath wrap, I'd say Bagobo because it's red, the stick figure & the hour glass triangles. The Bagobo also liked...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 1st July 2008, 08:04 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 175,880
Posted By Bill
can't say I'm following this thread all that...

can't say I'm following this thread all that closely & it certainly has many directions but pyramids are interesting & if one wishes to spend some time with google, the Inca pyramids are the one you...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th June 2008, 10:42 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 175,880
Posted By Bill
imo, rule #1 in dating a Kris is, you will always...

imo, rule #1 in dating a Kris is, you will always find exceptions.
#2 older Kris are less then 20 inches & have tapered blade tips for stabbing where the older ones evolve to a slashing...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th June 2008, 06:36 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 175,880
Posted By Bill
I think we are still a few years away from having...

I think we are still a few years away from having DNA tell us a good story but it's coming. It certain to challenge current history. Societies need to provide food & protection. When those things are...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 27th June 2008, 12:32 AM
Replies: 202
Views: 175,880
Posted By Bill
I fall into believing the "Deluge Theory" which...

I fall into believing the "Deluge Theory" which Gimbutas hints at but others provide some evidence. How early & how far different groups traveled & had direct or even indirect influences may never be...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th June 2008, 09:10 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 175,880
Posted By Bill
No, I've not lost interest but also don't have...

No, I've not lost interest but also don't have the energy for the effort. It is interesting that Alan is in this tread as the Australians seem to have a strong interest in the Bugis culture. The...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th June 2008, 06:55 PM
Replies: 202
Views: 175,880
Posted By Bill
Baganing, You may find interest in...

Baganing, You may find interest in reading/researching some of the work done by Marija Gimbutas. Her Kurgan Theory may be interest to you as it originates, in part, from uses of language. She also...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 10th June 2008, 06:30 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 5,766
Posted By Bill
That's a pretty cool shield. No idea where it's...

That's a pretty cool shield. No idea where it's from. Wire is made for jewelry going back past the Egyptians but it was very difficult to make. If the wire is iron, it's made by draw die method & not...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th March 2008, 11:49 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 18,337
Posted By Bill
Some time ago, I tried to find out about these....

Some time ago, I tried to find out about these. Not a lot of good information available. I did read that many were of high quality fittings, as the people that wore them had the power of justice. The...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 13th February 2008, 06:27 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 24,023
Posted By Bill
"There is a strange iron loop at the butt end....

"There is a strange iron loop at the butt end. Any ideas?" I guess the spear could be carried spearhead to the ground & a banner on it but seems unlikely they would need an iron loop for that. I...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 8th February 2008, 06:47 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 12,168
Posted By Bill
Your display is pretty current to what is sold in...

Your display is pretty current to what is sold in the shops all over the Philippines. They have been selling Moro weapon displays for 100 years so there is numerous variations. I wouldn't doubt if it...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 31st January 2008, 11:29 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 13,926
Posted By Bill
It looks like it could quickly convert to a spear.

It looks like it could quickly convert to a spear.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 25th January 2008, 02:53 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 37,362
Posted By Bill
The guard would start at the base of the "flame"....

The guard would start at the base of the "flame". Take a look at where the base of the flame would meet the guard. On both of the swords I have, the base, as it is about to hit the guard starts to...
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