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		13th April 2005, 09:55 AM
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				Hello Kerislovers,  
  
since many years I follow... 
				 
				Hello Kerislovers,  
  
since many years I follow the footsteps of faked and new kerisses but this is an most interesting handle, wrangka and pendok. The question is, are they made for faking ore just...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		26th March 2005, 09:10 AM
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				Hello Kerislovers,   
Dear Paul,  
  
I don`t... 
				 
				Hello Kerislovers,   
Dear Paul,  
  
I don`t have forgotten the keris of Sendai but I said we don`know the kerisses before the 17th cent. All we have are the oral tradition which I do not trust very...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		25th March 2005, 11:18 PM
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				Hello Kerislovers,  
  
its nice to see an old... 
				 
				Hello Kerislovers,  
  
its nice to see an old dateable keris but the seawater doen`t left much. From our old collections of the so called curiosity chambers of the nobles of good old Europe we have...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		19th March 2005, 09:40 AM
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		16th March 2005, 11:09 AM
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		15th March 2005, 07:57 PM
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		14th March 2005, 10:01 PM
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				Hello Capt. Smash,  
  
its not only the... 
				 
				Hello Capt. Smash,  
  
its not only the corrosion but also the incomplete greneng and the blade is to narrow. It could be reshaped. This has been done many times to rise the prices in Bali and even...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		13th March 2005, 10:27 PM
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				Hello Kerislovers,  
  
the animals on top of the... 
				 
				Hello Kerislovers,  
  
the animals on top of the ganja are not original but made recently. The blade itself is not a good one because of the low condition. Remember Balinese Blades are polished not ...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		10th February 2005, 11:44 PM
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				This could be interesting.  
  
Bulbeck, D. and... 
				 
				This could be interesting.  
  
Bulbeck, D. and Caldwell, I. 2000. The land of iron: The historical archaeology of Luwu and the Cenrana Valley. Results of the Origin of Complex Society in South...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		5th February 2005, 10:09 PM
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				Hello dear Mick,  
  
this is the second handle... 
				 
				Hello dear Mick,  
  
this is the second handle from metal of this kind i have seen. The style is early or mid 17th cent. See my avatar. I dont dare to appraise them to this age without seeing the...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		4th February 2005, 10:24 PM
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				Hello Kerislovers,  
  
especially on this kind... 
				 
				Hello Kerislovers,  
  
especially on this kind of "keris" we have a lot of stories (donggeng) but no  written records nor pictures on sculptures. The story this pieces has been used for the ceremony...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		14th January 2005, 11:38 PM
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				Hello Paul,   
nice to hear from you. Have you... 
				 
				Hello Paul,   
nice to hear from you. Have you got my message ? Your keris is an older one. This kind has been made in Madura as well in Yogya but seldom in Solo. I never saw a pamor like this from a...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		13th January 2005, 08:36 PM
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				Hi Kerislovers,  
  
yeah, the pictures becomming... 
				 
				Hi Kerislovers,  
  
yeah, the pictures becomming better and better. Thanks to Ria and Blue i like to see that, here you still can differentiate between the iron and pamorlayers. Both pamor are well...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		12th January 2005, 12:49 AM
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				Hi Kerislovers,  
  
it seems its necesary to... 
				 
				Hi Kerislovers,  
  
it seems its necesary to made a comment because there is nothing to congratulate on this blade, even I´m contrary of all my fellow forumites and all yelling on me.   
  
First I´m...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		3rd December 2004, 07:14 PM
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				Cambodian kris! 
				 
				Yes, it raises more questions but the thread is on the blackbord now and if somebody remember I think we all will be happy to hear answers and questions too. I`m myself has doubts on the...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		2nd December 2004, 11:07 PM
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				Cambodian Kris ! 
				 
				There are two kerisses with rusty blades and bronze hilts. The hilts are not Javanese or Indonesian. The hilts might be the only difference and could help to find out the provenance. Maby some of our...
			 
		 
		
		
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			Forum: Ethnographic Weapons
		
		 
		2nd December 2004, 09:14 PM
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				Cambodian Kris ! 
				 
				Hi Kerislovers,  
  
I have found some interesting pages on Cambodian Krisses:  
  
http://www.fareastasianart.com/stores/namarama/items/105784/en1fareastasianart.html  
  
How our forumites think about ?...
			 
		 
		
		
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