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Old 16th September 2022, 01:12 AM   #1
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I recently acquired this beautiful piece. The fittings on the scabbard and hilt seems to be brass and aluminum.
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Old 16th September 2022, 03:26 AM   #2
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Very nice with aluminum(?) mounts. The head could be that of Bakunawa from the Visayas. Post WW2 looks like.
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Old 16th September 2022, 04:57 AM   #3
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Very nice with aluminum(?) mounts. The head could be that of Bakunawa from the Visayas. Post WW2 looks like.
I'm just curious- since it has brass, could it possibly be pre-war? I've noticed that the WW2/immediately postWW2 Panay pieces only have aluminum fittings (no brass parts anymore). Level of detail might also correspond to prewar.

Just a thought, though, am no Panay expert- always looking forward to learn more!
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Old 16th September 2022, 07:46 PM   #4
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I guess the question is are the white metal parts aluminum or silver or nickel-copper alloy? They look aluminum to me and this wasn't in ample supply until WW2. Brass/bronze has always been available. So a testing of the metal would be the only way to be 100% sure of silver content or not.
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Old 17th September 2022, 03:18 PM   #5
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I guess the question is are the white metal parts aluminum or silver or nickel-copper alloy? They look aluminum to me and this wasn't in ample supply until WW2. Brass/bronze has always been available. So a testing of the metal would be the only way to be 100% sure of silver content or not.
It feels and look aluminum to me. Is there a simple way to test the metal fittings? Regarding the silver content.
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Old 17th September 2022, 06:28 PM   #6
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Nice find, hollowman.
Judging by the amount of aluminum vs brass used, maybe it wasn’t readily available or possibly a post-WWII addition / replacement.
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Kino has a point. Might be earlier with latter additions. They are nicely done in any case.
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Old 18th September 2022, 04:16 AM   #8
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Nice find, hollowman.
Judging by the amount of aluminum vs brass used, maybe it wasn’t readily available or possibly a post-WWII addition / replacement.
interesting information. thank you sir.
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Kino has a point. Might be earlier with latter additions. They are nicely done in any case.
I appreciate all your inputs Battara.
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Don't forget, up till 1886, when, with the availability of cheap electric power, they invented the electrical processing of alumina into aluminium, it was a rare and precious metal and only used for decorative embellishments like this Knife & scabbard.

Aluminium did exist and was used much earlier than y'all think. I hear a cutler made a dinner setting for a King about 1825 with aluminium handles.


Aluminium was certainly available and used in the late 19c., and readily available pre WW1 for structural military use - when they used it to build airships - Zeppelins - to bomb London. Duralumin alloy used in airships was invented in Germany in 1909 and was a state secret for a while. But that's another story.


Use of easily salvaged aluminium from WW2 aircraft wrecks, of course, expanded greatly during/after WW2 in the far east.
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