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Old 16th December 2023, 09:39 AM   #1
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Recently i had the opportunity to get this dutch klewang with the marking 'Hembrug'. It also has an additional marking and a little plate stating 'P.A.M. 1281' , see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...6&postcount=11 .

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Old 16th December 2023, 01:02 PM   #2
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Interesting decorations on the scabbard, haven't seen that before. Do those have some sort of significance?
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Old 16th December 2023, 02:59 PM   #3
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The P.A.M. 1281-marking is probably a museums identification badge, the A.M. eventually for Military Mueum
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Old 16th December 2023, 03:05 PM   #4
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The P.A.M. 1281-marking is probably a museums identification badge, the A.M. eventually for Military Mueum

Udo you are a master of the esoterica of these weapons!!
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Old 16th December 2023, 03:48 PM   #5
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No wonder, I spent many long years in a military museum and know how museums label their inventory
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Old 16th December 2023, 08:31 PM   #6
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Udo,

You may well be correct. However, I've seen similar plates refer to a particular unit and the individual sword number within that unit. Each person issued one of these swords had a numbered weapon. Many different groups were issued with these swords, including some police units, but not all used numbered examples. I'm on vacation at present, but when I get back I will check the book on Klewang and see if that abbreviation is mentioned. The crown over "Z" mark is likely an inspector's mark, which may help pin down the year of manufacture.

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Old 3rd April 2024, 01:37 PM   #7
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Default Messing plate P.A.M. 1281

The P.A.M. on the messing plate is for a klewang belonging to the Field-police of Bondowoso and Djember (note: This is Dutch spelling used in 1935 so it maybe named different now) the number is the weapon number within that unit. As far as I know this information is in Dutch only. In a later post I will try to translate it.

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