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Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th November 2025, 10:00 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Once again, to clarify, my efforts here in...

Once again, to clarify, my efforts here in posting this intriguing leather armor have been to either support the suggested Spanish/Pueblo origin of this most unusual cuirass , or to acknowledge the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th November 2025, 06:57 PM
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Views: 95,279
Posted By Jim McDougall
Once again, to clarify, my efforts here in...

Once again, to clarify, my efforts here in posting this intriguing leather armor have been to either support the suggested Spanish/Pueblo origin of this most unusual cuirass , or to acknowledge the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th October 2025, 10:14 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
This is a quandry!! Seems like there was some...

This is a quandry!! Seems like there was some elaborate deity of worship through the Meso American history Olmec, Aztecs, Mayans which had the feathered serpent god Quetzalcoatl......possibly this...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th October 2025, 06:20 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
The coat at top is a cuera, late 18th into 19th,...

The coat at top is a cuera, late 18th into 19th, layered rawhide.
The shields are adarga.

Not sure about the scaled armor below but reminds me of I think something Ive seen that was Rajput from...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th October 2025, 01:21 AM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Bourke armor

To support the notable presence of scaled (cataphract) armor in the Spanish southwest is best described in the paper written by Dr. Peter Bleed of the University of Nebraska in 'Plains...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th October 2025, 07:21 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
The Philippine history and arms are not a field I...

The Philippine history and arms are not a field I have studied that much, but in research on the cuir boullli cuirass I began researching over ten years ago has been concluded to be of Spanish...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th October 2025, 06:12 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Rick, its always good to hear from ya!!! Instant...

Rick, its always good to hear from ya!!! Instant images of the 'Highlander' scenes! :)

This is phenomenal, and adds new dimension to this perplexing dilemma of these leather armors. This newly...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 30th March 2025, 04:32 AM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Ian and Jose!! I cannot thank you guys enough for...

Ian and Jose!! I cannot thank you guys enough for your incredible help on this. Yourpoints are well made, and I think we have enough to submit rebuttal and our evidence I thinks stands well......as...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 29th March 2025, 06:09 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Thank you so much Ian! Actually that is the very...

Thank you so much Ian! Actually that is the very point which has become clouded in this dilemma.

This cuirass I began researching in 2009 for individuals in Arizona and New Mexico during a search...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 28th March 2025, 11:48 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Impasse

Impasse
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 26th March 2025, 06:32 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
This topic has become quite a learning experience...

This topic has become quite a learning experience for me, as though I have never been much involved in the arms and armor of these regions in the Philippine archipelago and Malaysian, Indonesian etc....
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 23rd March 2025, 07:01 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Thank you David, maybe with title specifying Moro...

Thank you David, maybe with title specifying Moro someone with knowledge on these armors might come in here.
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 22nd March 2025, 07:58 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
MORO ARMOR

I have a posting on the ethnographic forum which is titled 'Frontier Cuirass c.1720' as it has been held to be a Spanish leather (cuir boulli) cuirass for the past 70+ years.
An as yet unfounded...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 22nd March 2025, 01:02 PM
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Views: 95,279
Posted By Jim McDougall
Thank you Ian. This armor came out of an auction...

Thank you Ian. This armor came out of an auction sometime in 1957 in California and was grouped with other Spanish colonial items including a morion. It was acquired by a renowned Arizona antiquarian...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 21st March 2025, 03:58 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
I see what is meant by okir, and that is of...

I see what is meant by okir, and that is of course a remarkably similar type of ornamentation.
What it as hand here is that the cuirass in question is of far earlier age than most Moro examples...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 20th March 2025, 06:50 AM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Pueblo armor 17th-18th c

The leather cuirass Pueblo in Spanish style

detail from Segesser II hide painting , Santa Fe New Mexico depicting Villasur battle , near Platte & Loup rivers Nebraska 1720.
Pueblo artist unknown...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 20th March 2025, 06:40 AM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Rick what is okir?

Rick what is okir?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 20th March 2025, 04:05 AM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Thank you Ian, good points about the connections...

Thank you Ian, good points about the connections between Spanish colonial and Philippine administrations, and there was certain networking from Santa Fe where Pueblos were situated. While I have...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 19th March 2025, 11:52 PM
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Views: 95,279
Posted By Jim McDougall
Thank you so much Jose, What is important here...

Thank you so much Jose,
What is important here is this example shown is completely unlike any other Moro armor I can find anywhere. All other examples and designs are front opening reflecting the...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 19th March 2025, 06:40 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 95,279
Posted By Jim McDougall
This is wonderful!! Can we find detail on this...

This is wonderful!! Can we find detail on this armor? I presume it is 1800s. Is there a way to reach the owner of this? Was there a tradition of using cuir boulli (boiled hide) in the Philippines,...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 19th March 2025, 03:16 PM
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Views: 95,279
Posted By Jim McDougall
Thank you Rick. Actually thanks to Jose showing...

Thank you Rick. Actually thanks to Jose showing that particular armor, which does of course appear to be leather, I cannot make out construction features nor material used(what type of leather) .
...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 18th March 2025, 09:15 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 95,279
Posted By Jim McDougall
Amazing, do we have more detail on this? period...

Amazing, do we have more detail on this? period etc.
What type of leather?
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 18th March 2025, 08:34 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 95,279
Posted By Jim McDougall
Thank you so much guys! This is very important. ...

Thank you so much guys! This is very important.
I have browsed through everything I can find online, but absolutely nothing I can find comes close to this unusual example. It has a long history in...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 18th March 2025, 05:21 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 95,279
Posted By Jim McDougall
The frontier armor I am researching is believed...

The frontier armor I am researching is believed to be Pueblo tribe, allied with Spanish c.1680-1720 made in cuir boulli, which is of boiled bull hide, dried, shaped and hardened. ...the breast plate...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 17th March 2025, 06:26 PM
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Posted By Jim McDougall
Frontier cuirass c. 1720 believed Pueblo Indian in Spanish Style

I need help with this from those of you specializing in Filipino armor, as there are proponents who claim this is from the Philippines. These individuals offer no examples or proof, and as far as I...
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