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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Today, 02:29 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you for your further explanations Jean. ...

Thank you for your further explanations Jean.

In respect of the name that might be accurately applied to the top cross part of a wrongko, yes, I was aware of Sutejo Neka's use of "sampir" when I...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Today, 12:17 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
A pretty piece of work GP. The hilt is not...

A pretty piece of work GP.

The hilt is not ivory, it is bone or deer antler, more likely to be bone I think.

The "keris" is not in my opinion, a keris.
It is a keris-like object where the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Today, 12:01 AM
Replies: 19
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you Jean for this beautiful illustration of...

Thank you Jean for this beautiful illustration of the point I was trying to make. It is sometimes difficult to understand why something --- in this case a keris --- varies from what we expect to see,...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Yesterday, 12:33 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Jean, the keris is Balinese or Balinese style,...

Jean, the keris is Balinese or Balinese style, the atasan is Balinese style, the pendok is not Balinese, and the hilt is more likely to be Lombok than Bali.

There is perhaps a possibility that...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Yesterday, 07:55 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Afterthought I just re-read this comment, &...

Afterthought

I just re-read this comment, & it sounds harsh, it is not intended to be.

This is a nice keris, the dress is pretty much less than nice, but it can be easily improved.

It is the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi Yesterday, 06:21 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Just the pendok Paul, the atasan or gambar is...

Just the pendok Paul, the atasan or gambar is older Bali, the hilt is a bit of a mix of two different genuinely Balinese themes, the cup upon which the hilt sits is a sort invention, as is the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th May 2022, 11:00 PM
Replies: 19
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
But they can produce fine quality hilts in Madura...

But they can produce fine quality hilts in Madura too Marco. There is a carver lives away from Sumenep, I forget the name of the place, "Bhu---" something or other, and his work is very good indeed....
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th May 2022, 01:25 PM
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Views: 5,912
Posted By A. G. Maisey
In an attempt to try to find some Javanese...

In an attempt to try to find some Javanese symbolism attached to the turi blossom I asked Dr. Google some pointed questions. I was not successful in finding anything really specific, and I only...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 15th May 2022, 08:23 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Detlef, I do not know "kudhup" in BI, neither...

Detlef, I do not know "kudhup" in BI, neither does Mr Echols nor his mate Mr Shadily. Echols & Shadily has been the recognised BI/English & English/BI dictionary for 60 years.

I know the word...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th May 2022, 03:02 AM
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Views: 595
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Thank you Detlef.

Thank you Detlef.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th May 2022, 11:50 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Detlef, once interpretation of standardised forms...

Detlef, once interpretation of standardised forms are removed from a dominant governing authority they tend to vary so widely that it becomes almost impossible to identify exactly what the point of...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th May 2022, 11:42 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 365
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yeah, we've had the Bali Hilt discussion more...

Yeah, we've had the Bali Hilt discussion more times than once in the past.

There are a number of factors involved, I personally think that the major one is that most hilts in the modern era have...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th May 2022, 09:37 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 365
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Do yourself a favour David, and replace it. ...

Do yourself a favour David, and replace it.

Wrapped up and into the back of the bottom drawer.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th May 2022, 02:37 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 365
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yes David, its a nice keris, but a dealer who...

Yes David, its a nice keris, but a dealer who knew very little about keris got hold of it along the way and dressed it incorrectly, as it is, it is regrettably a very bad joke, almost an insult.
...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th May 2022, 03:50 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 365
Posted By A. G. Maisey
The keris itself looks to be very nice, old, good...

The keris itself looks to be very nice, old, good condition, 19th century, classic.

The gambar of the wrongko (the top cross part) looks as if it could be original to the blade.

The pendok &...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th May 2022, 09:56 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 595
Posted By A. G. Maisey
My error Gustav, other people in this thread have...

My error Gustav, other people in this thread have referred to Chenok, I've never heard of Chenok, or Chana, or Chinok & I was going on memory without checking the spelling that others had used first....
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th May 2022, 12:16 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 595
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I have been following this discussion, and...

I have been following this discussion, and several times I have felt inclined to add a comment or two, but I've held back on that because really, I have nothing particularly positive to add. The...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th May 2022, 02:00 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,279
Posted By A. G. Maisey
There is most definitely an enforceable legal...

There is most definitely an enforceable legal procedure that should be employed in every case where cultural property is to be removed from Indonesia.

Keris & other items of tosan aji are cultural...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th May 2022, 01:46 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 332
Posted By A. G. Maisey
This "no gonjo" problem sounds to me like a...

This "no gonjo" problem sounds to me like a uniquely European or maybe uniquely Netherlands problem,yes, certainly I do come across the occasional keris missing a gonjo, but this is very, very...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th April 2022, 10:53 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,279
Posted By A. G. Maisey
The law in respect of removal of cultural...

The law in respect of removal of cultural property from Indonesia is pretty clear.

In very simple terms it is not a legal act to remove cultural property from Indonesia if the law states that you...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th April 2022, 11:21 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 671
Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, it is never very useful to try to...

David, it is never very useful to try to understand what Javanese & Balinese people are actually saying by simply listening to the words and attaching dictionary meanings to those words.

The...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th April 2022, 11:16 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 671
Posted By A. G. Maisey
In 1982 --- or maybe 1983 --- I visited Mangku...

In 1982 --- or maybe 1983 --- I visited Mangku Pande Made Wija near Klungkung. He was Pande Ketut Mudra's father.

When I visited Pande Made Wija, Pande Ketut was assisting his father in forge...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th April 2022, 09:16 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,279
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Jaga Old Mate, you got a rails run, the ethnic...

Jaga Old Mate, you got a rails run, the ethnic heritage is like a Gold Card maybe.

What I wrote is absolutely true and accurate with no embroidery.

I've got a whole basketful of spine tingling...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 28th April 2022, 02:34 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,279
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I always go in and depart through Bali. ...

I always go in and depart through Bali.

Going into Indonesia you must be aware that Indonesian Customs regards keris as weapons, you must declare that you have weapons when entering Indonesia.
...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 26th April 2022, 10:50 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 654
Posted By A. G. Maisey
This is current era dress keris. It could...

This is current era dress keris.

It could have been given as a present, in which case we can call it a "presentation" keris, but it was not made for this.

It typical of the bling-bling-blingy...
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