Rare Indian Shield

mahratt · 15th November 2019, 07:13 PM

Indian shield. Probably the early 19th century.

mariusgmioc · 17th November 2019, 02:35 PM

I have a Katar with similar koftgari.

The shield may be wootz...

mahratt · 17th November 2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

I have a Katar with similar koftgari.

The shield may be wootz...

You guessed it, Marius.

Shield of wootz.

Jens Nordlunde · 17th November 2019, 04:03 PM

Yes, Marius could be right, that the shield may be of wootz.
What are the 'nails' at the edge of the shield?
Is the decoration inlay or koftgari?

I have a katar, Rajput North India 18th century, with more or less the same floral decoration, but as floral decoration in many variations/combinations have been used over a very long period, this does not mean much.

Kurt · 17th November 2019, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mahratt

Indian shield. Probably the early 19th century.

Hi Mahratt,
I think 18 century.
I'm sure it's from wootz, it would be worth trying an etching.
Kurt

mahratt · 17th November 2019, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Hi Mahratt,
I think 18 century.
I'm sure it's from wootz, it would be worth trying an etching.
Kurt

Thank you, Kurt!

The collector, from whom I bought this shield, also said that it was the 18th century.
But I decided that it was made a little later.

Kubur · 18th November 2019, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mahratt

Thank you, Kurt!

The collector, from whom I bought this shield, also said that it was the 18th century.
But I decided that it was made a little later.

For dealers and collectors end of 19th c. means 1900

so i guess that early 19th c. means late 18th c.

From the photos the decoration is clearly koftgari.

mariusgmioc · 18th November 2019, 05:11 PM

1. If it is wootz, then most certainly is 18th century up to worst case scenario early 19th century.

2. The paddings may be and most likely is later, 19c replacements.

Now, how do you know it is wootz? Can you discern the watering?
If yes, then I would definitely try etching the whole shield (not easy task).
If not, then I would try etching the whole shield anyhow to give it the natural aged patination.

Definitely a very nice piece! Thank you for sharinng!

15th November 2019, 07:13 PM	#1
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	Rare Indian Shield Indian shield. Probably the early 19th century. Attached Images

17th November 2019, 02:35 PM	#2
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,912	I have a Katar with similar koftgari. The shield may be wootz...

17th November 2019, 04:03 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Yes, Marius could be right, that the shield may be of wootz. What are the 'nails' at the edge of the shield? Is the decoration inlay or koftgari? I have a katar, Rajput North India 18th century, with more or less the same floral decoration, but as floral decoration in many variations/combinations have been used over a very long period, this does not mean much.

18th November 2019, 05:11 PM	#8
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,912	1. If it is wootz, then most certainly is 18th century up to worst case scenario early 19th century. 2. The paddings may be and most likely is later, 19c replacements. Now, how do you know it is wootz? Can you discern the watering? If yes, then I would definitely try etching the whole shield (not easy task). If not, then I would try etching the whole shield anyhow to give it the natural aged patination. Definitely a very nice piece! Thank you for sharinng!