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Old 14th September 2010, 07:58 PM   #1
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Question Pattern-welded (twist core) Budiak

The discussion on Maurice's gorgeous budiak with a Sulu provenance got me to thinking about an old pattern-welded spearhead I have had for many years.

The pole was gone before I encountered the spear, which also included a very thin and fragile silver cylinder. Someone had tried to repair this with epoxy, but that had already failed. Clearly this would have been most stunning when intact and mounted.

The cross-section of the neck of this spear is very much a square on end and the neck of Maurice's spear reminded me of this one.

Does the form of this spearhead and the decoration on the ferrule reveal where this spear is from and allow any of you to enlighten me?
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Old 14th September 2010, 09:33 PM   #2
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Could one imagine a base under that silver like the left hand spear shown ?

No one ever really nailed this one down to a particular tribe IIRC .
The ferrule style is quite different from yours .
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Old 14th September 2010, 11:10 PM   #3
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Could one imagine a base under that silver like the left hand spear shown ?

No one ever really nailed this one down to a particular tribe IIRC .
The ferrule style is quite different from yours .
Hello Rick,

I only can post this image of these spears in a spanish museum.
Unfortunately I have no description of the spears, but maybe a spanish collector can tell more about the tags or what they are saying in the museum....
I only have this image!
Depicted are several spears, some with very plain silver ferrule (but with other bands/rings like yours).
Especially the second one of the left....the base looks very similar to me in comparison with yours, although your blade is a bit slimmer.

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Interesting form of budiak. Not seen this length of blade before. Love the twistcore.
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Old 14th September 2010, 11:22 PM   #5
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Thank you Maurice .

I don't see any that are similar; I think the one you mention goes to round at the base .
I see no rings on the ferrules that match .

Anyway, if the base of Lee's example is angular this might be something to work with ...... or just coincidence .

I see a resemblance :
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11670
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Old 14th September 2010, 11:37 PM   #6
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Thank you Maurice .

I don't see any that are similar; I think the one you mention goes to round at the base .
I see no rings on the ferrules that match .

Anyway, if the base of Lee's example is angular this might be something to work with ...... or just coincidence .

I see a resemblance :
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11670
Rick, sorry I don't see your statement.
If I give it a close look, the one I mentioned indeed is round and yours is square.
But just above the round base and up to the tip I am surely see some similarities.
Indeed the rings on your ferrule look very beautifull and different, as I mentioned before, and I never have seen them like this on budiaks nor Borneo spears. I have seen several Borneo spears with provenance which had silver ferrules and silver rings, but all different as yours, which look very finely made.

It looks like Lee's budiak's base is also square...
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Old 15th September 2010, 03:25 PM   #7
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Hi Maurice .
Could this be a more archaic form of Moro spear ?
Or a distinctly Sulu style ?

I rarely see these compared to the examples I show .

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Old 14th September 2010, 11:02 PM   #8
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The discussion on Maurice's gorgeous budiak with a Sulu provenance got me to thinking about an old pattern-welded spearhead I have had for many years.

The pole was gone before I encountered the spear, which also included a very thin and fragile silver cylinder. Someone had tried to repair this with epoxy, but that had already failed. Clearly this would have been most stunning when intact and mounted.

The cross-section of the neck of this spear is very much a square on end and the neck of Maurice's spear reminded me of this one.

Does the form of this spearhead and the decoration on the ferrule reveal where this spear is from and allow any of you to enlighten me?
Very handsome budiak Lee!
It must have been a status piece, looking at the silverwork, and it must have had an awesome look when compleet with pole...

I guess to track the origine, we must hope to find similar pieces like this in a museum with provenance.

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