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Old 1st August 2020, 10:55 AM   #1
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Sharing some of my grails. I'm into collecting moro swords.

If anyone could share more regarding these grails will be much appreciated.
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Old 2nd August 2020, 12:47 AM   #2
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Sharing some of my grails. I'm into collecting moro swords.

If anyone could share more regarding these grails will be much appreciated.
Please do share images as time allows.

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Old 2nd August 2020, 05:20 AM   #3
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I didn't noticed that images where not uploaded due to its size.. Will repost soon..
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Old 2nd August 2020, 05:30 AM   #4
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Here it is... Probably the photos weren't been uploaded in the original post due to size issues.
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Old 2nd August 2020, 09:31 AM   #5
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Hello Hefezola:

Thanks for sharing your kris and barung. The kris appears to be a broad-bladed example from the Sulu Archipelago, dating from mid-20th C I would think. It is missing its other stirrup, or it is a very unusual single stirrup example with the stirrup on the back side of the blade (I have never seen that before, so I think it is probably missing the other one). The hilt is a horse hoof style commonly found on mid-20th C examples.

The barung are all Sulu as well (probably Tausug) and likely date from the 20th C. One is missing part of its kakatua pommel, but it is 20th C too.
Each of your swords has been cleaned very well and I like the subtle etching that you have given them--the patterns are clear. Did you use nitrol or acetic acid?

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Very pretty pieces, and as Ian says, showing a lot of lovely patterning.

I'm particularly fond of the half-waved kris form (rantai I believe it's called), so I'm envious.
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Old 3rd August 2020, 07:09 AM   #7
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Hello Hefezola:

Thanks for sharing your kris and barung. The kris appears to be a broad-bladed example from the Sulu Archipelago, dating from mid-20th C I would think. It is missing its other stirrup, or it is a very unusual single stirrup example with the stirrup on the back side of the blade (I have never seen that before, so I think it is probably missing the other one). The hilt is a horse hoof style commonly found on mid-20th C examples.

The barung are all Sulu as well (probably Tausug) and likely date from the 20th C. One is missing part of its kakatua pommel, but it is 20th C too.
Each of your swords has been cleaned very well and I like the subtle etching that you have given them--the patterns are clear. Did you use nitrol or acetic acid?

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I used vinegar to clean some rust then cleaned it. . I used 60%water 40% ferric Chloride acid solution for etching...

Thank you for your inputs...

Is there in any way I could do for etchibg where patterns and lines come out boldly?
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Old 4th August 2020, 04:48 PM   #8
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Is there in any way I could do for etchibg where patterns and lines come out boldly?
There most likely is, but as far as i know a bold and contrasty display is not traditional to these weapons as it would be for, say, a Javanese keris.
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I think they are fine as they are.
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Old 6th August 2020, 06:27 PM   #10
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I think they are fine as they are.
Same here... Was thinking og redoing everything... 😂 I think they are fine as they are
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Yep. Just fine etching for me too.
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Old 9th August 2020, 07:31 AM   #12
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Here are some of my Philippine holy grails:
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