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31st March 2021, 10:15 AM | #1 |
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Sorry to start the thread in that manner that it merely Goes around the conduct and treat me as an object instead of the kerisses i post.
No I dont want to resell them, i bought them because they seemed to me better ones than the rest i Had seen in my country available so far and because when i see such homeless ethnographic objects from the world Rich in meaning i simply regret their fate and try to Save them from the indolents who form the legion of buyers. So, being the humble reader of those forum i tend for the opinion of experts simply not posing as one who knows much. This is how discussion start in my opinion: there is an object and they Are the People who know something to share for the collective wisdom sake. So far so good. Thanks to you i Know something about those blade So: thank you. |
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Thanks for saving these from the indolent legions. Frankly, if this is your entry point into the world of keris you probably did much better with this lot than most beginner keris collectors. |
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1st April 2021, 07:07 PM | #4 |
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As I see the first one is controversial most I propose to continue solely on it.
It is 38 cm long with 5cm puting. Ganja is 9 cm wide and 1.3 thick in thickest point. Blade is sharp on both edges. Pamor is hardly visible but present and lis/edges, are plain as, sorry for comparison, on chinese or Viking swords so gusin is clear. From the point where grooves (srawingan?) Ends the section is symmetrical and romboid. Overall shape almost exactly match the Balinese one which I have, but is thicker. Steel seems to be the good one and almost no rusty comparing to the rest- i did not touch them so far. Overall shape, proportions and manufacture is for me attractive and to be honest it was this one which attract me to but the bunch. I try to attach some macro photos when I catch the time. |
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On #6 i would look to Sumatra as i stated previously. It is Bugis, but the Bugis people were everywhere throughout the archipelago. As Alan suggested, better images of the hilt might help pin this down. The metal piece in #8 is not a sarong, it is a pendok. It may still have the gandar (sheath stem) inside it though. I agree those who placed this in Sumatra. The motifs seem to confirm that. |
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1st April 2021, 10:41 PM | #6 |
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In respect of the pendok motif.
I have seen this motif and this pendok design on a number of keris that people who have vastly more knowledge of Bugis-type keris than I do have classified as "Sulawesi Selatan". If I had this pendok in hand and could closely examine construction & workmanship, I might be able to give a supportable opinion on origin, but as is often the case, I have a lot of problems with trying to be too definite from what I think I can see in photographs. The gandar also is totally impossible for me to place accurately from a photograph, and probably I would not even want to give a definite opinion even with it in my hand. |
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