Is it an authentic Barong?

mykeris · 14th June 2009, 04:07 PM

Found this barong in Kota Kinabalu, Sabah.. Length of blade: 19 inches, Length together with handle: 24 inches, total length in scabbard: 26 inches. Kindly, pass your comments. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT. BARONG IS NOT MY AREA. Thanks in advance, Mykeris.

mykeris · 14th June 2009, 04:35 PM

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0924.jpg

mykeris · 14th June 2009, 04:54 PM

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0925.jpg

Lew · 14th June 2009, 05:08 PM

Looks like recently made tourist piece. Will need to see the blade to be sure.

mykeris · 14th June 2009, 05:11 PM

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0915.jpg

mykeris · 14th June 2009, 05:16 PM

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0912.jpg

mykeris · 14th June 2009, 05:21 PM

BLADE AFTER CLEANING.
http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0929.jpg

mykeris · 14th June 2009, 05:38 PM

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Battara · 14th June 2009, 05:38 PM

Looks like it is from Palawan.

Lew · 14th June 2009, 05:46 PM

Looks like it was artifically aged. Here is an old one for comparison. Yours has Aluminium ferrule which makes it post WW2 wood lacks any patina carving seems very fresh not older than 1970s-80s I think.

mykeris · 14th June 2009, 05:53 PM

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0933.jpg

mykeris · 14th June 2009, 06:20 PM

http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...DSC_0925-1.jpg

mykeris · 15th June 2009, 05:33 PM

All comments noted. Thanks.Mykeris.

VANDOO · 16th June 2009, 02:19 AM

THE FORM IS OF COURSE A BARONG,THE BLOOD GROVE DOWN THE CENTER OF THE BLADE IS NOT SEEN ON NORMAL PHILIPPINE BARONGS AND IS THE FEATURE MOST UNLIKE A BARONG ON THE ITEM. THE DESIGNS ON THE BLADE DON'T REALLY STRIKE ME AS PURE PHILIPPINE THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM AND THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE USUAL FORMS I HAVE SEEN.
THE CARVEING ON THE WOOD IS VERY WELL DONE AND DEFINITELY THE WORK OF A PROFESSIONAL CARVER. PERHAPS IT IS MAYLASIAN OR BORNEO WORK AS TO AGE THE ALUMINUM IS USUALLY WW2 OR LATER.
I PERSONALLY LIKE IT AND IT IS NOT A CHEAP TOURIST ITEM. PERHAPS IT WAS MADE FOR SOMEONE DURING OR AFTER WW2. CONGRADULATIONS

Battara · 16th June 2009, 03:10 AM

As I mentioned earlier this has the design and features of a Palawan barong. You can check earlier threads that mention this like this one:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=palawan

mykeris · 20th June 2009, 12:12 AM

Thanks again for all your views. With reference to earlier threads, yes, It makes sense to me that this piece originated from Palawan area. I conclude that the blade is before or after the war ( heavily used ) while the hilt and scabbard were replaced later perhaps in 1950s. The Ukiran (carving) I think, is a splendid handwork perhaps done by a professional wood carver in the 1950s. The blade fits very well indeed into the scabbard but unfortunately all rattans that that were tied up around the scabbard at upper and lower ends were found missing, needs a redo. The blade is functional and still very sharp. To those who are interested to own this piece, will put it at the SWAP Forum later on with reshoot pictures.
Regards,
Mykeris.

14th June 2009, 04:07 PM	#1
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Is it an authentic Barong? Found this barong in Kota Kinabalu, Sabah.. Length of blade: 19 inches, Length together with handle: 24 inches, total length in scabbard: 26 inches. Kindly, pass your comments. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COMMENT. BARONG IS NOT MY AREA. Thanks in advance, Mykeris. Last edited by mykeris; 14th June 2009 at 06:51 PM.

14th June 2009, 05:46 PM	#10
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Looks like it was artifically aged. Here is an old one for comparison. Yours has Aluminium ferrule which makes it post WW2 wood lacks any patina carving seems very fresh not older than 1970s-80s I think. Attached Images Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 14th June 2009 at 06:05 PM.

14th June 2009, 04:35 PM	#2
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0924.jpg

14th June 2009, 04:54 PM	#3
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0925.jpg

14th June 2009, 05:08 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Looks like recently made tourist piece. Will need to see the blade to be sure.

14th June 2009, 05:11 PM	#5
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0915.jpg

14th June 2009, 05:16 PM	#6
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0912.jpg

14th June 2009, 05:21 PM	#7
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	BLADE AFTER CLEANING. http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0929.jpg

14th June 2009, 05:38 PM	#8
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	[

14th June 2009, 05:38 PM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Looks like it is from Palawan.

14th June 2009, 05:53 PM	#11
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...m/DSC_0933.jpg

14th June 2009, 06:20 PM	#12
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/u...DSC_0925-1.jpg

15th June 2009, 05:33 PM	#13
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	All comments noted. Thanks.Mykeris.

16th June 2009, 02:19 AM	#14
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE FORM IS OF COURSE A BARONG,THE BLOOD GROVE DOWN THE CENTER OF THE BLADE IS NOT SEEN ON NORMAL PHILIPPINE BARONGS AND IS THE FEATURE MOST UNLIKE A BARONG ON THE ITEM. THE DESIGNS ON THE BLADE DON'T REALLY STRIKE ME AS PURE PHILIPPINE THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM AND THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE USUAL FORMS I HAVE SEEN. THE CARVEING ON THE WOOD IS VERY WELL DONE AND DEFINITELY THE WORK OF A PROFESSIONAL CARVER. PERHAPS IT IS MAYLASIAN OR BORNEO WORK AS TO AGE THE ALUMINUM IS USUALLY WW2 OR LATER. I PERSONALLY LIKE IT AND IT IS NOT A CHEAP TOURIST ITEM. PERHAPS IT WAS MADE FOR SOMEONE DURING OR AFTER WW2. CONGRADULATIONS

16th June 2009, 03:10 AM	#15
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	As I mentioned earlier this has the design and features of a Palawan barong. You can check earlier threads that mention this like this one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=palawan

20th June 2009, 12:12 AM	#16
mykeris Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 278	Thanks again for all your views. With reference to earlier threads, yes, It makes sense to me that this piece originated from Palawan area. I conclude that the blade is before or after the war ( heavily used ) while the hilt and scabbard were replaced later perhaps in 1950s. The Ukiran (carving) I think, is a splendid handwork perhaps done by a professional wood carver in the 1950s. The blade fits very well indeed into the scabbard but unfortunately all rattans that that were tied up around the scabbard at upper and lower ends were found missing, needs a redo. The blade is functional and still very sharp. To those who are interested to own this piece, will put it at the SWAP Forum later on with reshoot pictures. Regards, Mykeris.