Sunda golok variations

Ian · 13th May 2020, 10:47 PM

Hi Detlef:

There is a related family of golok and sword versions that have European style hilts and also bear the name of Tjikeroeh or Cipitang. These appear to have been made for the Dutch Colonial/European markets and have been discussed here previously. Typically, these relatives come in plain black wooden scabbards with brass chape and locket. Some of them have clipped blades resembling the "Dutch klewang" used by colonial troops. Dated examples indicate manufacture at the end of the 19th and early 20th C, up to the 1930s.

Ian

Royston · 15th May 2020, 07:41 PM

Hi Detlef,
Here are some of them all of similar size. I am not certain that they are all from Sunda, but they are similar.

Sajen · 16th May 2020, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Royston

Hi Detlef,
Here are some of them all of similar size. I am not certain that they are all from Sunda, but they are similar.

Thank you Roy!

I think that not all are of Sunda manufacture, the down one at the second picture for example, I personally can't place it exactly.

On the third and fourth picture I also doubt that these examples of Sunda origin, one has an handle I've seen by rawits. The other one maybe Banjarmasin origin?

The one on the right at the fifth picture I guess is of Malay origin.

The one on the last picture look a little bit Visayan!?

But a big bulk is indeed from Sunda IMVHO.

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 20th June 2020, 12:22 PM

This two examples will enter the collection soon!

CharlesS · 20th June 2020, 12:42 PM

Some really impressive pieces! I bet you are having trouble finding space for so many blades...like me!

kai · 20th June 2020, 02:45 PM

Hello Detlef & Charles!

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Some really impressive pieces!

Yeah, some good and varied examples - will comment later.

Close-ups of the inscription on the last one would be good!

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I bet you are having trouble finding space for so many blades...like me!

No worries, I'm here to help both of you! Just give me a heads-up...

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 20th June 2020, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kai

Yeah, some good and varied examples - will comment later.

Close-ups of the inscription on the last one would be good!

Hello Kai,

Thank you as well.

Have attached a picture from the auction house, will post a better one when I have the piece in my hands!

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Originally Posted by kai

No worries, I'm here to help both of you! Just give me a heads-up...

Very kind!

But I am surprised that you still have space!

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 20th June 2020, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

Some really impressive pieces! I bet you are having trouble finding space for so many blades...like me!

Thank you Charles!

And yes, indeed, space is running out!

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 12th August 2020, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

This two examples will enter the collection soon!

Sadly they don't will enter my collection!

The auction house stated that a bidder in room bid the same amount I gave online.

Sajen · 16th May 2020, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian

There is a related family of golok and sword versions that have European style hilts and also bear the name of Tjikeroeh or Cipitang. These appear to have been made for the Dutch Colonial/European markets and have been discussed here previously. Typically, these relatives come in plain black wooden scabbards with brass chape and locket. Some of them have clipped blades resembling the "Dutch klewang" used by colonial troops. Dated examples indicate manufacture at the end of the 19th and early 20th C, up to the 1930s.

Hi Ian,

Yes, I know them, thank you for connect the two threads!

Regards,
Detlef

15th May 2020, 07:41 PM	#2
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 441	SOME MORE Hi Detlef, Here are some of them all of similar size. I am not certain that they are all from Sunda, but they are similar. Attached Images

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Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,562	This two examples will enter the collection soon! Attached Images

13th May 2020, 10:47 PM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,041	Hi Detlef: There is a related family of golok and sword versions that have European style hilts and also bear the name of Tjikeroeh or Cipitang. These appear to have been made for the Dutch Colonial/European markets and have been discussed here previously. Typically, these relatives come in plain black wooden scabbards with brass chape and locket. Some of them have clipped blades resembling the "Dutch klewang" used by colonial troops. Dated examples indicate manufacture at the end of the 19th and early 20th C, up to the 1930s. Ian

20th June 2020, 12:42 PM	#5
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,855	Some really impressive pieces! I bet you are having trouble finding space for so many blades...like me!