Asian and Australian shields

billevans · 16th June 2013, 02:03 AM

I would appreciate any information regarding this shield.

VANDOO · 16th June 2013, 05:09 AM

CONGRADULATIONS

YOU HAVE SOME NICE SHIELDS. SOME VERY NICE AUSTRALIAN SHIELDS. I CAN'T HELP MUCH WITH THE OTHER SHIELDS BUT THERE IS LIMITED INFORMATION AND PICTURES ON THE POST ON AUSTRALIAN SHIELDS. FEEL FREE TO ADD TO OR CORRECT ANY INFORMATION ON THAT POST. THE THIRD SHIELD REMINDED ME OF SOME DESIGNS I HAVE SEEN FROM TORAJA.
I JUST SAW THE POST ON SHIELDS FROM TAIWAN AND YOUR EXAMPLE THERE AND NOTED SOMEONE ELSE MENTENONED TORAJA DESIGNS. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN COLLECTING AND DO YOU JUST COLLECT SHIELDS? I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOUR COLLECTION.

Nonoy Tan · 16th June 2013, 07:55 AM

Bill, I think the round shield has more Chinese characters at the back but not fully shown in the photograph. Those characters might provide clues of its history.

Tim Simmons · 17th June 2013, 07:21 PM

I have two of these Papuan Central Highlands bowman shields very similar to the one you have. Interesting that they are about the same size, however they are quite different. One is relatively finely carved displaying the stroke of the adze. The timber is light, the shield weighs 1.422 kg. The design on the front appears to have been painted with imported paints? I am not completely sure but the paint is certainly different or more sophisticated than earth based pigments. This shield is old probably 1960s - 1970s when traditional warfare had yet to become trade axe and shotgun to AK47. The other is much more roughly hewn as if just a thick slice split from a large timber log. This shield weighs almost twice the other example, being 2.507 kg. The shield is painted with the usual earthen pigments. Could possibly be a decade or two older.

I have yet to get an Australian shield. In spite of the fact that they are extremely common, several available on ebay each week, and traditionally made throughout the 20th century. They are so over priced as is they are rare and antique.

billevans · 18th June 2013, 03:51 AM

The answer to your question is that these two shield come from very different places. The one on the left with the more crescent shape is from the Madang area of the North Coast while the rough cut one is from the Southern Highlands

Sajen · 29th February 2024, 10:07 PM

Sadly I have to tell you that Bill Eavans, the publicator of "War Art & Ritual" deceased at Valentins Day after a long fight!
I was in contact with him over several years, rest in peace Bill!

kino · 1st March 2024, 05:47 AM

Sad news.
R.I.P. Bill Evans

I traded a Bagobo shield for this large Moro shield, with Bill many years ago.

Ren Ren · 1st March 2024, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billevans

I would appreciate any information regarding this shield.

平中 píngzhōng - justice, impartiality

The dictionary notes that this is an obsolete expression.

Unfortunately, I'm late. Let this be a small sign of respect for the memory billevans.

16th June 2013, 02:03 AM	#1
billevans Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 10	chinese shield I would appreciate any information regarding this shield. Attached Images

17th June 2013, 07:21 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,742	I have two of these Papuan Central Highlands bowman shields very similar to the one you have. Interesting that they are about the same size, however they are quite different. One is relatively finely carved displaying the stroke of the adze. The timber is light, the shield weighs 1.422 kg. The design on the front appears to have been painted with imported paints? I am not completely sure but the paint is certainly different or more sophisticated than earth based pigments. This shield is old probably 1960s - 1970s when traditional warfare had yet to become trade axe and shotgun to AK47. The other is much more roughly hewn as if just a thick slice split from a large timber log. This shield weighs almost twice the other example, being 2.507 kg. The shield is painted with the usual earthen pigments. Could possibly be a decade or two older. I have yet to get an Australian shield. In spite of the fact that they are extremely common, several available on ebay each week, and traditionally made throughout the 20th century. They are so over priced as is they are rare and antique. Attached Images

18th June 2013, 03:51 AM	#5
billevans Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 10	underarm shields The answer to your question is that these two shield come from very different places. The one on the left with the more crescent shape is from the Madang area of the North Coast while the rough cut one is from the Southern Highlands

29th February 2024, 10:07 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,571	Sadly I have to tell you that Bill Eavans, the publicator of "War Art & Ritual" deceased at Valentins Day after a long fight! I was in contact with him over several years, rest in peace Bill! Attached Images

1st March 2024, 05:47 AM	#7
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 981	Sad news. R.I.P. Bill Evans I traded a Bagobo shield for this large Moro shield, with Bill many years ago. Attached Images

16th June 2013, 05:09 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	CONGRADULATIONS YOU HAVE SOME NICE SHIELDS. SOME VERY NICE AUSTRALIAN SHIELDS. I CAN'T HELP MUCH WITH THE OTHER SHIELDS BUT THERE IS LIMITED INFORMATION AND PICTURES ON THE POST ON AUSTRALIAN SHIELDS. FEEL FREE TO ADD TO OR CORRECT ANY INFORMATION ON THAT POST. THE THIRD SHIELD REMINDED ME OF SOME DESIGNS I HAVE SEEN FROM TORAJA. I JUST SAW THE POST ON SHIELDS FROM TAIWAN AND YOUR EXAMPLE THERE AND NOTED SOMEONE ELSE MENTENONED TORAJA DESIGNS. HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN COLLECTING AND DO YOU JUST COLLECT SHIELDS? I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOUR COLLECTION.

16th June 2013, 07:55 AM	#3
Nonoy Tan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 293	Bill, I think the round shield has more Chinese characters at the back but not fully shown in the photograph. Those characters might provide clues of its history.