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Old 17th August 2020, 01:08 PM   #1
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Default Bulgarian rifle boyliya

I want to show you my restoration on Bulgarian rifle boyliya. From the type which was shared here, I make the same type of it. I expect your comments.
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Old 18th August 2020, 09:18 AM   #2
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Welcome to the Forum bobi13! Thanks for posting your interesting gun with its nice restoration.
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Old 18th August 2020, 10:16 AM   #3
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It is impossible to comment without knowing what or which parts of the gun have been restored
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Old 18th August 2020, 03:34 PM   #4
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It is impossible to comment without knowing what or which parts of the gun have been restored


The barrel and the lock are original. All others parts are not original. I made them.
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Old 18th August 2020, 06:24 PM   #5
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Yes, some pictures before restoration would be very helpful!
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Old 19th August 2020, 08:38 AM   #6
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A lot of time and work. Most impressive.
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Old 19th August 2020, 08:53 AM   #7
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bobi13,

How did you come up with the date of 1231 Hijri (1816 Gregorian)?

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Old 19th August 2020, 12:59 PM   #8
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I made restoration the rifle 2019 year, but these rifles are did mading 18-19 century. Тherefore i em made this year.
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Old 19th August 2020, 01:48 PM   #9
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Hello bobi13. Welcome to the Forum.

That is a wonderful looking Boyliya. It's the one style I don't have in my collection.
If the only original pieces are the lock, barrel, and it appears the trigger, you have done an incredible job duplicating the wood stock profile and metal fittings. The barrel bands, other brass/pearl decoration look very well done, and in the traditional manner. And the lock looks like it cleaned up perfectly. Looks like all you need is a iron ramrod.

A question: Where did you locate the small, round, brass starburst inserts ? I have been trying to locate those for years.

As mentioned above, if you have any photos of the gun before restoration, please post them. As well, some additional details of the restoration.

Again, congratulations on a wonderful restoration.

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Old 19th August 2020, 03:42 PM   #10
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Wow, congrats, you can be proud of your work!

But sorry, I wouldn't call it restoration, it's a new one with partly antique pieces.

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Old 19th August 2020, 05:01 PM   #11
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A question: Where did you locate the small, round, brass starburst inserts ? I have been trying to locate those for years.



There are people in Bulgaria (and elsewhere I am sure), who make tubes of horn and brass rods inside and then cut them into small rounds, which are then ready to be inserted. Perhaps if you contact bobi13 privately, he might be able to help you source some.

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Old 19th August 2020, 08:03 PM   #12
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They may be called knife handle Mosaic Pins or nails on your search engine. Lots of different designs available.
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Old 20th August 2020, 12:54 AM   #13
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I am impressed! Great work!

I will have to agree with Sajen though on the new piece with antique parts. If most of were antique then that would be different.

Still great work!
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Old 20th August 2020, 02:15 AM   #14
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Do you also happen to make Yatagans as well? It might be you that I know from FB. and you made some amazing looking Yatagan! You are from Bulgaria correct?
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Old 20th August 2020, 10:33 AM   #15
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Hello bobi13. Welcome to the Forum.

That is a wonderful looking Boyliya. It's the one style I don't have in my collection.
If the only original pieces are the lock, barrel, and it appears the trigger, you have done an incredible job duplicating the wood stock profile and metal fittings. The barrel bands, other brass/pearl decoration look very well done, and in the traditional manner. And the lock looks like it cleaned up perfectly. Looks like all you need is a iron ramrod.

A question: Where did you locate the small, round, brass starburst inserts ? I have been trying to locate those for years.

As mentioned above, if you have any photos of the gun before restoration, please post them. As well, some additional details of the restoration.

Again, congratulations on a wonderful restoration.

Rick


I have only these pictures from restoration. Small round, brass starburst inserts we say in Bulgarian "rozetki" (розетки), I made them it.
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Old 20th August 2020, 10:41 AM   #16
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Here is Photos them "rozetki"
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Old 20th August 2020, 10:56 AM   #17
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Do you also happen to make Yatagans as well? It might be you that I know from FB. and you made some amazing looking Yatagan! You are from Bulgaria correct?



I am Borislav Uzunov, I am from Bulgaria and live in city Troyan. I restoration and yatagans, I shall show tomorrow photos.
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Old 20th August 2020, 03:21 PM   #18
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Thank you Teodor and Edster !!! I search with the term mosaic pins and found just what I was looking for. I should have used that term a long time ago.
Just shows one the value of this Forum.

Thank you again. Rick
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Old 21st August 2020, 04:36 AM   #19
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I am Borislav Uzunov, I am from Bulgaria and live in city Troyan. I restoration and yatagans, I shall show tomorrow photos.


Borislav, you do excellent work. The precision of the craftsmanship and the fidelity to traditional forms and styles is commendable. By and large, the quality of the work is better than what I've seen on many wholly-antique boyliyas. Do share your pics of yataghans on another thread, we'd love to see them!

If the barrel is in sufficient and safe condition, do you plan on shooting this gun? With a brand-new stock, you don't have to worry about recoil causing strain on old wood, or dislodging loose inlays!
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Old 25th August 2020, 09:19 PM   #20
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The reconstruction is stunning. Discussion about limit of such could be long but pointless. One could easily mention contemporary Monte Cassino or some 1000 year Old japanese temples...
Well, it is ethnographic arms forum, so for me it is good news to see old (ethno)skill of ottoman linked kathamkali/sadeli work had not vanish. I suppose some ancient Guns and yathagans could benefit
If those pins would be available on market. Myself had looked for any data about them for pretty long time and in vain.
How do you make those pins? Brass and tar? Wood? Epoxy?
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Old 26th August 2020, 01:23 PM   #21
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I made those pins from bronze and buffalo horn.
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Old 27th August 2020, 11:02 AM   #22
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Can i have some technical questions? And maeby not to bother the other forumites, on personal mail?
Mine is grendolino@wp.pl.
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Old 28th August 2020, 04:21 PM   #23
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Excellent work, fantastic craftsmanship, Borislav!
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