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Old 14th July 2012, 12:49 AM   #1
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These Koummya started me on a quest for others, they were E bay items with a no returns limitation. I contacted the seller who agreed to allow returns, if not satisfied. They sold for the opening bid. I was sure the gold colored one was a plastic movie prop. It later tested to be 18K gilt over solid 14K gold.
Well, the original owner was T'hami El Glaoui, Berber Pasha of Marrakesh, and Lord of the Atlas Mountains. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thami_El_Glaoui T'hami was teenage hero who with his older brother saved the lives of Pasha Moulay Hassan and his army trapped in the Atlas Mountains during a blizzard. He later protected a number of Christians and Foreigners, during the Fez treaty 1912.

T'hami sent his children to live with the Bellon family and be educated in Paris, the two Families interacted visiting Marrakesh frequently. Michel Bellon and Mohammed El Glaouli, became boyhood friends. Michel Bellon was also a young teen hero in the French Resistance.

The gold dagger was presented to Michel by Tíhami El Glaoui for his wartime efforts. The Silver dagger was from his friend Mohammed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJjKtiEj1a0
Michel was fourteen when his father became a leader in the French Resistance. Michel gives his accounting: On November 16, 2007, Bro. Michel Bellon gave a presentation of his life as a 14-year old within the French Resistance of Nazi-Occupied France and the Masonic leadership that had helped organized these French Patriots into the Maquis. Mr. Bellon was arrested and died in Auschwitz. Michel spoke of three Americans who supported, trained and supplied the Resistance and his eventual flight taking them to Spain and safety then on to the United States only to return to the war as an American Bomber Pilot ferrying planes in need of repairs.

I've included a photo of a very similar Koummya from the Roosevelt Library.

I can hardly believe this whole find and with provenance. Steve
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Old 14th July 2012, 01:03 AM   #2
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Congrats, Steve!

How did you link these 2 pieces with the provenance?

Please let us have a peek at the blades, too! What is their max. thickness?

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Old 14th July 2012, 01:21 AM   #3
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Very nice.
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Old 14th July 2012, 02:05 AM   #4
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Old 14th July 2012, 02:54 AM   #5
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Awesome purchase !
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Old 14th July 2012, 05:46 AM   #6
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unbelievably beautiful pieces with an equally beautiful story behind it. Congrats on a wonderful find!
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Old 14th July 2012, 06:32 AM   #7
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The blade on the gold one is heavy but plain and never touched, the silver one is much older style and age 3/16" thick at hilt stained and slight pitting over about a third of the blade. Hilt is crude wood and looks like it was carried by a
young man. The connection with El Glaoui was mentioned in the listing. Here is
an explanation by Mr. Bellon. I couldn't get my scan of the letter to work, so photo of screen will have to do.

How many times have you handled a weapon and wished it could talk. It took about four months to get the letter thru the E Bay Seller, but, I was assured
Michel felt it was time to let them go to someone who wanted to preserve their
history.

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Old 14th July 2012, 02:46 PM   #8
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We seem to have a proliferation of Koummyas given by Mr. Glaoui to varios dignitaries :


What a strange coincidence......

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Old 14th July 2012, 02:56 PM   #9
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Ariel.
That's an active auction. Might want to remove the link and just mention that it is currently being offered?
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Old 14th July 2012, 06:24 PM   #10
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Old 15th July 2012, 02:38 AM   #11
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Just when I was beginning to lose hope of treasure on eBay! Congratulations
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Old 15th July 2012, 08:34 PM   #12
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GREAT finds, Archer. I gnash my teeth in envy!
But they couldn't have found a better home.
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Old 16th July 2012, 03:56 PM   #13
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Superb pieces with quality blades.
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Old 16th July 2012, 03:57 PM   #14
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Nice one! beautiful examples thanks alot for sharing.
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Old 21st July 2012, 07:23 PM   #15
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Hi Ariel, The koummya to President Roosevelt was presented by Sultan Suli Mohammed. We both noted the second dagger by T'hami El Glaoui at the same time. I ended up with it. I spoke to the seller he has owned it for 15 years or so. Interestingly, he found and contacted Relatives of General Wilson. He asked if they would be interested, they declined saying they Kept the other one with pearls. Seems T'hami also gave him other baubles and an Arabian Horse. So I'm trying to find out what his duties were in Morocco and why these presentations took place. E Bay photos were oversize. Steve
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Old 9th August 2020, 10:57 PM   #16
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I'm about to turn 82 so i thought i'd get a jeweler to establish the gold content of this piece current value + 12K. hopefully it won't end up in a yard sale> So keep your eyes open who knows.
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