IVORY FOR POMMEL

Sajen · 14th October 2020, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by xasterix

Thanks Leif! Additionally, if it's not much of a hassle, may I ask everyone to assess my friend's piece, of similar build as mine.

Also elephant ivory.

xasterix · 15th October 2020, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Also elephant ivory.

Dear Detlef:

Thanks very much for the assessment!

xasterix · 15th October 2020, 02:45 AM

Here are other samples, from another friend's collection. The one with the reddish hilt intrigues me, as it's a standout from the other ivory-looking samples. One of the hilts is also unique, having a string of hawk bells tied from the base of the pommel up to the gangya as a makeshift guard.

TIA for anyone who'll assess! Much appreciated.

Battara · 15th October 2020, 02:59 AM

Xasterix, the Maguindanao pommel looks like aged Mother-of-Pearl in silver frames to me. I have seen it darken like this.

The other pommels are ivory. The red coloration is the result of the presence of sulfur which oxidizes the ivory from red to a dark reddish brown or a honey-is brown.

I find the T'boli bells interesting.

xasterix · 15th October 2020, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Xasterix, the Maguindanao pommel looks like aged Mother-of-Pearl in silver frames to me. I have seen it darken like this.

The other pommels are ivory. The red coloration is the result of the presence of sulfur which oxidizes the ivory from red to a dark reddish brown or a honey-is brown.

I find the T'boli bells interesting.

Thanks sir! Here are "raw" pre-restoration pics of the hawkbell-guard kris.

Rafngard · 16th October 2020, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xasterix

Thanks sir! Here are "raw" pre-restoration pics of the hawkbell-guard kris.

That is a really interesting piece. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it.

Battara · 17th October 2020, 06:21 AM

This again proves a lot of trade between Philippine groups. Fascinating isn't it?

15th October 2020, 02:45 AM	#3
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 598	Here are other samples, from another friend's collection. The one with the reddish hilt intrigues me, as it's a standout from the other ivory-looking samples. One of the hilts is also unique, having a string of hawk bells tied from the base of the pommel up to the gangya as a makeshift guard. TIA for anyone who'll assess! Much appreciated. Attached Images

15th October 2020, 02:59 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,142	Xasterix, the Maguindanao pommel looks like aged Mother-of-Pearl in silver frames to me. I have seen it darken like this. The other pommels are ivory. The red coloration is the result of the presence of sulfur which oxidizes the ivory from red to a dark reddish brown or a honey-is brown. I find the T'boli bells interesting.

17th October 2020, 06:21 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,142	This again proves a lot of trade between Philippine groups. Fascinating isn't it?