Stilettos

fernando · 17th September 2020, 06:28 PM

Still they are a precious treasure, Udo... no doubt. Thanks much for sharing

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SteveL · 27th September 2020, 02:18 PM

You have an eye for quality. Please hit me up if you ever have any for sale.

Jim McDougall · 28th September 2020, 03:27 AM

The stiletto evolved around end of the 16th c. and was most popular in the 17th c. These were truly examples of the artistry of steel chiseling and while it is often suggested these were used to spike threatened guns, it seems a shame to use these in that manner.

When these were used in Venice as gunners daggers (as previously discussed, in mid 17th c. (see "Gunners Daggers" Marcello Ferenzi, 'Arms & Armor Annual, 1973, pp.170-79). ...the mysterious calibrations degenerated into often spurious gauges to legitimize the possession of what were dangerous assassins weapons.
In those times only artillery gunners were allowed to have these 'fusetti'.

fernando · 28th September 2020, 12:14 PM

I guess the presumed purpose to spike guns while retreating was also a way to bleach their carrying around. As i also believe that these splendid Udo's examples have necessarily belonged to whealthy or high rank owners, who didn't need to justity their possession.

kronckew · 28th September 2020, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

... i also believe that these splendid Udo's examples have necessarily belonged to wealthy or high rank owners, who didn't need to justify their possession.

Bit like the germanic rules that only the Nobility could carry swords, the common muck were only allowed to carry knives. resulting in some rather long messer.

kronckew · 28th October 2020, 09:06 PM

Interesting "Gunner's" stiletto just finished on auction (for more than I was willing to spend).

Interesting crossguard like the breeches of a cannon.

Hope one of our members got it...

fernando · 29th October 2020, 01:21 PM

Do you really think this is period stuff, Wayne ?

27th September 2020, 02:18 PM	#2
SteveL Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 16	Stiletto s You have an eye for quality. Please hit me up if you ever have any for sale.

28th October 2020, 09:06 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,152	Interesting "Gunner's" stiletto just finished on auction (for more than I was willing to spend). Interesting crossguard like the breeches of a cannon. Hope one of our members got it... Attached Images

17th September 2020, 06:28 PM	#1
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,647	Still they are a precious treasure, Udo... no doubt. Thanks much for sharing .

28th September 2020, 03:27 AM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,785	The stiletto evolved around end of the 16th c. and was most popular in the 17th c. These were truly examples of the artistry of steel chiseling and while it is often suggested these were used to spike threatened guns, it seems a shame to use these in that manner. When these were used in Venice as gunners daggers (as previously discussed, in mid 17th c. (see "Gunners Daggers" Marcello Ferenzi, 'Arms & Armor Annual, 1973, pp.170-79). ...the mysterious calibrations degenerated into often spurious gauges to legitimize the possession of what were dangerous assassins weapons. In those times only artillery gunners were allowed to have these 'fusetti'.

28th September 2020, 12:14 PM	#4
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,647	I guess the presumed purpose to spike guns while retreating was also a way to bleach their carrying around. As i also believe that these splendid Udo's examples have necessarily belonged to whealthy or high rank owners, who didn't need to justity their possession.

29th October 2020, 01:21 PM	#7
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,647	Do you really think this is period stuff, Wayne ?