Stamp on a Klewang

ruiter58 · 25th September 2023, 09:55 PM

Thanks Willem and David,

Sorry about the late reply but I was out or a few days.
I do remember an older thread now where the PBX was mentioned. I'm searching the internet and get a lot of hits on "Paku Buwono" and will dive into that. Dave, you made me think and indeed I don't know any Indonesian maker marks. (Apart from Tjikeroe inscriptions). I can post another photo of the klewang now as I was able to buy it. You can see the damaged basket and the weirdly thin sheath. I expect to have it in my hands next week so that I can weigh and measure it. Don't know why but at this moment I am still convinced it is post 1945. Kind regards, Ron

Ian · 26th September 2023, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ruiter58

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I do remember an older thread now where the PBX was mentioned. I'm searching the internet and get a lot of hits on "Paku Buwono" and will dive into that. ...

That old thread is here http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=22308

ruiter58 · 27th September 2023, 01:28 AM

Hello everyone, thanks for thinking with me, suggesting directions and searches. I bought the klewang and today it was delivered at my daughters house in the Netherlands. (I live in the Czech Republic and all buys from Dutch auctions I have delivered at my daughters; I either pick it it up when we are in the Netherlands or they bring it along when they come over here). She was able to take some more pictures, take measures and weight. First of all, it is heavier than most of the other klewangs (964 grams) while the hilt basket is made up of only 1mm steel (Most other ones have around 1.7 mm thickness). The sheath is made of very thin leather and weighs only 64 grams! On this sheath there is a very interesting stamp (See picture) If the letter type used is "Times new Roman" Than the stamp says: " Pol Plg and on the next line Nr 390" If it is Dutch, it could be an abbreviation or "Politie Ploeg" in Dutch "plg" is very common for Ploeg. This would mean "Police Team" No idea if "Pol Plg" can lead to something else in another language. Please see the pictures, hope they make sense to someone. Kind regards, Ron

Amuk Murugul · 28th September 2023, 06:19 AM

Hullo ruiter58!

Try:
PB=Pabrik Besi(Steel Factory), hence the hammer&anvil
PolPlg=Polisi Palembang(Palembang Police)
Everything seems locally-made.

mvg,

kai · 28th September 2023, 08:01 AM

Thanks a lot AM!

During which period did they manufacture klewang?

Regards,
Kai

ruiter58 · 28th September 2023, 11:50 AM

Thank you so much Amuk Murugul!

I am looking into it now and never realized how many steel work is done. Hope to be able to find the maker mark and/or the correct brigade

Kind regards, Ron

25th September 2023, 09:55 PM	#1
ruiter58 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Kytlice, Czech Republic Posts: 19	Search continues Thanks Willem and David, Sorry about the late reply but I was out or a few days. I do remember an older thread now where the PBX was mentioned. I'm searching the internet and get a lot of hits on "Paku Buwono" and will dive into that. Dave, you made me think and indeed I don't know any Indonesian maker marks. (Apart from Tjikeroe inscriptions). I can post another photo of the klewang now as I was able to buy it. You can see the damaged basket and the weirdly thin sheath. I expect to have it in my hands next week so that I can weigh and measure it. Don't know why but at this moment I am still convinced it is post 1945. Kind regards, Ron Attached Images

27th September 2023, 01:28 AM	#3
ruiter58 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Kytlice, Czech Republic Posts: 19	More details on the Klewang Hello everyone, thanks for thinking with me, suggesting directions and searches. I bought the klewang and today it was delivered at my daughters house in the Netherlands. (I live in the Czech Republic and all buys from Dutch auctions I have delivered at my daughters; I either pick it it up when we are in the Netherlands or they bring it along when they come over here). She was able to take some more pictures, take measures and weight. First of all, it is heavier than most of the other klewangs (964 grams) while the hilt basket is made up of only 1mm steel (Most other ones have around 1.7 mm thickness). The sheath is made of very thin leather and weighs only 64 grams! On this sheath there is a very interesting stamp (See picture) If the letter type used is "Times new Roman" Than the stamp says: " Pol Plg and on the next line Nr 390" If it is Dutch, it could be an abbreviation or "Politie Ploeg" in Dutch "plg" is very common for Ploeg. This would mean "Police Team" No idea if "Pol Plg" can lead to something else in another language. Please see the pictures, hope they make sense to someone. Kind regards, Ron Attached Images

28th September 2023, 11:50 AM	#6
ruiter58 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Kytlice, Czech Republic Posts: 19	Reply to Amuk Murugul Thank you so much Amuk Murugul! I am looking into it now and never realized how many steel work is done. Hope to be able to find the maker mark and/or the correct brigade Kind regards, Ron

28th September 2023, 06:19 AM	#4
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 457	Hullo ruiter58! Try: PB=Pabrik Besi(Steel Factory), hence the hammer&anvil PolPlg=Polisi Palembang(Palembang Police) Everything seems locally-made. mvg,

28th September 2023, 08:01 AM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,223	Thanks a lot AM! During which period did they manufacture klewang? Regards, Kai