Is it a katar dagger ?

francantolin · 24th January 2020, 05:46 PM

Hello everybody,

I finally received it !!
don't really know what to think about it,
seems old iron-steel ( really old !?!)

the top looks like a real old heavy spear ( total weight 850gr )
but don't sure it's an old katar:
The handle is really large 11cm
I'm not that big but not small !! (1,85 meter tall ), usually katar handle are pretty small for me, this one is really large !
( maybe for mammoth hunting ...)

francantolin · 24th January 2020, 05:53 PM

here some pics of the handle,

Before receiving it, I thought the side bars had been shortened but I don't think so

If it was an old on handle katar dagger , it could have a wood or bone grip like this one I found on internet,
said to be from the 17th century.

What do you think ? -Kind Regards

Frankie

francantolin · 24th January 2020, 05:55 PM

And if it's not a dagger/spear,
what could it be used for ??

Thank you !!!

Rich · 24th January 2020, 06:56 PM

Perhaps a parring dagger, like a Main Gauche ?
Rich

mariusgmioc · 24th January 2020, 08:27 PM

I suspect this is a very recent fake...

Kmaddock · 24th January 2020, 08:47 PM

Very interesting.
I wonder might it be for cutting whale blubber or the like?
I like it for the obvious age it displays
Regards
Ken

ariel · 24th January 2020, 10:22 PM

Don’t think so. The very size of the whale and the thickness of the blubber required much longer blades. There also was no need in diamond profile and the function was to flense, not to stab.
Blubber knives were used for Samoan Nifo Oti. That’s where we find most of them these days.

24th January 2020, 05:46 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 840	Hello everybody, I finally received it !! don't really know what to think about it, seems old iron-steel ( really old !?!) the top looks like a real old heavy spear ( total weight 850gr ) but don't sure it's an old katar: The handle is really large 11cm I'm not that big but not small !! (1,85 meter tall ), usually katar handle are pretty small for me, this one is really large ! ( maybe for mammoth hunting ...) Attached Images

24th January 2020, 05:53 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 840	here some pics of the handle, Before receiving it, I thought the side bars had been shortened but I don't think so If it was an old on handle katar dagger , it could have a wood or bone grip like this one I found on internet, said to be from the 17th century. What do you think ? -Kind Regards Frankie Attached Images

24th January 2020, 08:27 PM	#5
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,883	I suspect this is a very recent fake... Attached Images

24th January 2020, 10:22 PM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Don’t think so. The very size of the whale and the thickness of the blubber required much longer blades. There also was no need in diamond profile and the function was to flense, not to stab. Blubber knives were used for Samoan Nifo Oti. That’s where we find most of them these days. Last edited by ariel; 24th January 2020 at 10:55 PM.

24th January 2020, 05:55 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 840	And if it's not a dagger/spear, what could it be used for ?? Thank you !!!

24th January 2020, 06:56 PM	#4
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	Perhaps a parring dagger, like a Main Gauche ? Rich

24th January 2020, 08:47 PM	#6
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 534	Very interesting. I wonder might it be for cutting whale blubber or the like? I like it for the obvious age it displays Regards Ken