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3rd April 2024, 08:30 AM | #1 |
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Yes Gustav, it does, P.233.
I know no Basa Sasak at all, but in Balinese "ngelek" is to swallow. Aiq? not the vaguest. |
3rd April 2024, 09:18 AM | #2 |
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An online dictionary says, aiq means water in Sasak language.
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3rd April 2024, 12:20 PM | #3 |
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From Bentuk Dan Gaya Keris Nusa Tenggara Barat:
Aiq Ngelek (Sasak) = Air Mengalir (BI) = Flowing Water |
3rd April 2024, 05:11 PM | #4 |
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Yes, you will find numerous sources for pamor Aiq Ngelek online. I have no idea if this is a recent name or one that goes back a ways, but most descriptions tie it specifically to keris Lombok. Here is one such description:
"The image of the pamor Aiq Ngelek makes a series of pamor lines in the middle of the blade, they connect each other here and there. Sometimes, these pamor lines are flanked by a pamor motif like Kulit Semangka. Pamor AIQ Ngelek, long time has been very popular on Lombok. Therefore you find it very often and is always on the straight keris. The magical power of the pamor Aiq Ngelek brings sincerity. Pamor Aiq Ngelek can be both, pamor Mlumah and Tiban, and also Miring and Rekan. It can be both, a selected as also a not selected pamor motif. Pending on this it can be suitable for everyone or not." Here is a link to a 14 year old thread where Gustav identified a blade as having this pamor and the name source being Sasak. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11425 |
3rd April 2024, 08:34 PM | #5 |
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This pamor is made by forging a mlumah bakalan into a miring bakalan & then forging to shape without using protective plates.
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3rd April 2024, 09:48 PM | #6 |
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Thank you all for the info on my Bali/ Lombok Keris.
I made a new thread around the Tegal Keris I got in the same lot at auction. Would love to know more about it. Regards, Martin |
3rd April 2024, 11:25 PM | #7 |
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So maybe this keris is Aiq Ngelek if in Lombok, or Ilining Warih if in Bali, or something else if in somewhere else?
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