A double handed sword

[NeilUK]

That's quite a good-looking sword you have there. You are right that its size and weight suggest that it is a parade sword as combat two-handers tend to be 150-160cm in length and nearer 2.5kg in weight. Is it genuine late 16th century? It looks to be well made, perhaps with a replacement grip and pommel. Overall my impression from both the crossguard and the blade is that it is a good replica, 19th or even 20th century. If you bought it as a replica then you have done all right.
Neil

[francantolin]

Thank you Neil for your reply,
It was sold as a :
18th/19th replica of a 16th swiss double handed sword.
Low starting price, the opportunity to have one of these and not a cold steel replica...

Usually, it's a serious action house,
So, where are the 18th parts ?

The pommel and blade seemed old/ ok to me
( maybe naìve 18/19th century trusting ...)

During the same session, they were selling two other pieces sold as ''16 century style double handed swords'' without even the mention ''18/19th century'' for one and written '' probably 18/19 th century '' for the other one.
Starting price: 1500 € ... ( weight 3600 kg and +/- same dimensions ...)

The starting price for ''my'' sword was low
Often they make tender bidding system. ( main auction )
swords starting 300€ and ending 4000...
and sometimes unsold...

[francantolin]

Happy to have it after little work...

A last question for specialists please :
Why did bladesmiths make sharp edges for reproductions or parade swords ?
Really, this one is one of the sharpest sword I have...

For the ''old'' pommel , I found this look like on an old sword from a museum in Vienna.

For the blade: I know that few years in soil car turn all rusty but I don't think the blade is 20 century with this black rust patina.

[francantolin]

Last one for the tip/blade structure.
Kind regards

[NeilUK]

OK, I'll go along with the pommel, though that shape is unusual on 2-handers, and the pommel is the element most often replaced when a sword is being restored. As for the sharpness - a good repro has to be sharp otherwise it's not a good repro! I still feel that this is a repro, but a good one, and if I'm wrong then you have an even better bargain.
Neil

[francantolin]

Hello,
I have a question about "replacement" pommels:
I found other with the same shape ( one discussed on an old post ) on old two handed swords.
are they typical of another period that confirm these are later pieces ?
19th century ??

[francantolin]

I'd like to share with you the lines that appeared when I clean it another time and use this time grain 800 then 1000 again.
It is not that deep in the blade but deep enough for being revealed after a second lights sanding.
Strange lamination (?) lines or remains of drawings ?
More presents on one side but de can see them a little on both ( cf pics )
in any case it don't look like a modern damas...

Don't know if it makes it an earlier or later model...

Kind regards

[BBking]

An ''uraltes'' blade for break the silence !...

I hope this one will help.
same ''lines'' and blade shape ( hexagonal section ) on an old italian model of two handed sword
( this one with a stamp )/mark ...)