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Old 8th November 2020, 06:59 PM   #1
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Bought this dagger as:

Antique Turkish Ottoman Dagger Knife circa late 1800's
Handcrafted authentic knife, engraved blade, the handle is made of horn with brass rings between, and brass parts.
32.5cm full length
the dagger 31cm
the blade is 18cm and 3cm wide

I agree indeed it to be Ottoman but place it in the Balkan.
Why?
Looking at the motives on the scabbard it might even be Bosnian,
but against that: I never saw this motive on a blade .
Unfortunately no maker's mark...

And ofcourse I know not everthing and am an amateur compared to most of you..

Hence it could also be from more southern countries like Macedonia or Bulgaria...?

What do you think?
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Old 8th November 2020, 07:25 PM   #2
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An odd duck indeed. Based on zero experience with a dagger of this appearance - so merely a wild guess - I'd think N.Africa myself, but I'm probably wrong.
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Old 8th November 2020, 10:13 PM   #3
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Stacked hilts are usually hispanic.
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Old 8th November 2020, 10:34 PM   #4
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Hi

Erythrean Ottoman knife 1900

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=syrian+knife

But Syrian knives have very similar hilts.
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Old 9th November 2020, 06:22 PM   #5
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Hi

Erythrean Ottoman knife 1900

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=syrian+knife

But Syrian knives have very similar hilts.
great, thank you very much for the link and free lession!
Most highly appreciated
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Old 10th November 2020, 07:59 PM   #6
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Kubur is correct. Here is a similar example in my collection with the stacked horn composition.

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Old 12th November 2020, 07:49 PM   #7
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thank you as well Geoff !



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Old 13th November 2020, 08:41 PM   #8
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Stacked hilts are usually hispanic.

I have always thought that as well, David, so I would have gone with your observation. Its always hard to follow influences as they diffuse through trade and other interaction.
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