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Old 26th June 2016, 09:25 AM   #1
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The book "Living Races of Mankind" is often a good source for photographs of people of about a century ago. I've copied a photograph of two Bugis men from there.
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Old 26th June 2016, 10:05 AM   #2
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The book "Living Races of Mankind" is often a good source for photographs of people of about a century ago. I've copied a photograph of two Bugis men from there.
The both seems to carry recongs so they are most probably no Bugis but Aceh men.

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Old 26th June 2016, 01:01 PM   #3
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The both seems to carry recongs so they are most probably no Bugis but Aceh men.

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Yep, 2 x rencong.

I guess you want to get a good picture of a bugis man in full dress.
Prossibly with some jewelry.

Maybe try and search for makassar / Celebes.

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Old 26th June 2016, 04:47 PM   #4
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The both seems to carry recongs so they are most probably no Bugis but Aceh men.

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I would certainly agree there, so perhaps "Living Races of Mankind" is not such a good source after all.
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Old 26th June 2016, 05:10 PM   #5
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I KEPT GETTING BUGIS AND BATAK MIXED UP IN MY RESEARCH. THE TWO GROUPS BOTH TRAVELED TRADED AND RAIDED SO THE HISTORY IS SIMILAR AS WELL AS THE WEAPONS. I DON'T KNOW IF THE TWO GROUPS CAME FROM THE SAME ANCESTRY OR PERHAPS FROM A EARLY MALAY KINGDOM WHICH CONTROLLED A LARGE AREA IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD. BOTH BUGIS AND BATAK WERE IN SUMATRA AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER AREAS AND SEEM TO BE WIDE SPREAD WITH CONCENTRATIONS IN SOME AREAS NEAR OTHER GROUPS SUCH AS THE ACHENES.
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Old 30th June 2016, 09:52 PM   #6
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I bought a couple of small knives (badik?) in Sulawesi from a Bugi market in 1993. They looked almost exactly like these and were definitely made by Bugis. The right angle on the hilt was quite distinctive but the turn was about 1.5cm from the blade while these look like the turn may be further from the blade, perhaps 3cm?
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Old 30th June 2016, 11:12 PM   #7
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This is fascinating:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_in_Bugis_society
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Old 30th October 2019, 07:45 PM   #8
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Default Get to know the nature of the Makassar Bugis

Get to know the nature of the Makassar Bugis
*Makassar Bugis TRIBE is known for raising blood, likes to throw tantrums, kill and want to die for something, even if it's just a trivial matter. What is the cause so? What's with the soul of this ethnic character?
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It is not known what cause the Makassar Bugis were forced to kill or commit bloodshed, even if it was only a small case. If asked to them why such a thing happened, rarely even one can answer with certainty - so that it can be clearly understood - what causes him to spill the blood of others or he wants to die for someone.
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Historians and cultural experts suggest getting to know the souls of the two tribes more closely by studying the propositions, sayings, history, customs and conclusions of their words that are beautifully described in their poems or rhymes. the line of light in the dark of the night, if we investigate deeper, it appears that most of the killings were due to shame and humiliation. Many shamed and humiliated questions are colored by very strong traditional events.
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