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Old 28th October 2015, 03:49 AM   #1
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The serpentine doesn't looks cut deep enough for a match. With the "nib" in the pan, is it possibly percussion? I know, it would take considerable pressure on the trigger, to fire a cap.
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Old 28th October 2015, 06:14 AM   #2
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The serpentine doesn't looks cut deep enough for a match. With the "nib" in the pan, is it possibly percussion? I know, it would take considerable pressure on the trigger, to fire a cap.
That is a matchlock, maybe the serpentine needs to be spread apart and I am not sure about the "nib" but the weak spring on these would not work as a percussion. Here is another similar example.
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Old 28th October 2015, 09:06 AM   #3
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That is a matchlock, maybe the serpentine needs to be spread apart and I am not sure about the "nib" but the weak spring on these would not work as a percussion. Here is another similar example.
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YOUR MUSKET IS SO MUCH LIKE MINE,JUST ONE YEAR APART FROM THE DATES.MUST HAVE RUBBED SHOULDERS AT ONE TIME,CHEERS AND THANKS FOR POSTING
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Old 28th October 2015, 12:00 PM   #4
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Hi Rajesh,

It's a nice one!
I don't think that it was made for a boy.
As you said probably a carbine. My torador is also very short.
I think it depends of the use...

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Old 30th October 2015, 10:18 AM   #5
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Hi Rajesh,

It's a nice one!
I don't think that it was made for a boy.
As you said probably a carbine. My torador is also very short.
I think it depends of the use...

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HI KUBUR THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION,AS I NOW UNDERSTAND ITS MORE FOR HUNTING,MANY THANKS RAJESH
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Old 28th October 2015, 12:33 PM   #6
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YOUR MUSKET IS SO MUCH LIKE MINE,JUST ONE YEAR APART FROM THE DATES.MUST HAVE RUBBED SHOULDERS AT ONE TIME,CHEERS AND THANKS FOR POSTING
Yes, they are very similar, same workshop perhaps. Here is a group of even smaller torador.
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Old 28th October 2015, 12:38 PM   #7
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I think these ones are for another use, they are really short.
They look like guns or blunderbuss.
Rajesh's carbine is probably for hunting.
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Old 28th October 2015, 02:21 PM   #8
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Are there any written accounts of the use of these short and even shorter matchlocks? I have seen paintings of hunting scenes, but they generally show long or intermediate arms.

Regarding dates;
It is possible that the dates are when they were "inventoried" in an arsenal, rather than when they were made. On Indian arms, this sometimes happened more than once.

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Old 29th October 2015, 03:49 PM   #9
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Are there any written accounts of the use of these short and even shorter matchlocks? I have seen paintings of hunting scenes, but they generally show long or intermediate arms.

Regarding dates;
It is possible that the dates are when they were "inventoried" in an arsenal, rather than when they were made. On Indian arms, this sometimes happened more than once.

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Richard, I am sure that those dates are arsenal dates and have nothing to do with their manufacture.

As for the short versions being mentioned in written accounts, there are a few mentions in general of "tamancha torador" but the only reference to their purpose I know of is by Georeg Stone who said that they were "probably mainly for show". I think they would have been a good household defense weapon, the ones pictured just do not look like show pieces unless Stone meant they were more for intimidation.
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Old 30th October 2015, 10:19 AM   #10
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Yes, they are very similar, same workshop perhaps. Here is a group of even smaller torador.
THANS ESTCRH
THATS A BEAUTIFUL ARRAY OF TAMANCHAS ,COPIED THAT FOR MY E-LIBRARY
REGARDS
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Old 30th October 2015, 11:18 AM   #11
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Hi Rajesh,

Mine has a lot of tigers on the barrel.
Let's dream that it was to hunt tigers...

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Old 30th October 2015, 11:42 AM   #12
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Hi Rajesh,

Mine has a lot of tigers on the barrel.
Let's dream that it was to hunt tigers...

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haha good one,you never know,poor tigers,more tigers as pets in peoples apartments in usa than in the indian jungle,cheers
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