Dance & Weapons

gp · 21st June 2020, 11:35 PM

Sioux ghost and buffalo dance filmed by Thomas Edison in 1894
(only the first 20 secs one can clearly see some weapons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQGW5a0q51w

gp · 23rd June 2020, 10:20 PM

our dearest friends in Mexico were in Precolumbian times already very familiar with sword & club like weapons
like the Aztec's Macuahuitl ( the one with feathers called 'hungry wood') and a similar one from the Maya's ( called 'blade runner")

Hence they had no issue replacing it in later times by the machete. Incorporated into a dance on Mariachi music.
Like these Native Americans from Mexico in the 1st YouTube film

Don't try this at home...
unless you finish a bottle of Mescal ....
and eat the worm....
arriba....andele

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esRnl2PlxzA

and if your name is not Speedy Gonzales..., you can always start like this little muchacho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ykp-YVpGPU

gp · 3rd September 2020, 10:33 PM

a Tamil dance from India 1949 with knives @ 1:40 min. by the Travancore Sisters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HUpgOmxdFI

gp · 3rd September 2020, 10:56 PM

in the Netherlands there is a big Mollucan community, most from the Southern Islands like (Ambon), but each with their own traditions and cultural variety

Hereby 3 examples from the Northern Islands being wardances :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEi2zZsxIlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umgOUzzQtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WGMCfupIxg

Fierce not only by their looks but these men were fierce as warriors as well,
a picture of WW II and one from 1874 in Atjeh

mariusgmioc · 7th September 2020, 03:55 PM

Scottish sword dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZCT8H-Hpbc

Georgian dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OsAsJejxJY

Korean sword dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtJfefdr2Gc

Dance from Bougainville Island

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5AEbo53SHo

Indonesian Barong dance (from 6:20)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5O8gnQh5Po

Aceh knife dance (final part of the clip)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvClxcLqxpc

And another (from around 29:30)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcbwZaDVM0

David · 9th September 2020, 07:37 AM

Dance for Ogun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W82tnya3cnk

gp · 28th September 2020, 11:30 PM

War Dance in Congo of the Ba Mongo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFT-TeUrP4

the Konda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koQ0ynPZQGA

and the Kuba:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oStCNLZBjUM

gp · 10th October 2021, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gp

in the Netherlands there is a big Mollucan community, most from the Southern Islands like (Ambon), but each with their own traditions and cultural variety

Hereby 3 examples from the Northern Islands being wardances :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEi2zZsxIlQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umgOUzzQtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WGMCfupIxg

Fierce not only by their looks but these men were fierce as warriors as well,
a picture of WW II and one from 1874 in Atjeh

although the Moluccans had a reputation as fierce fighters, so one ought to respect their women and they ought not to be ignored. Strongminded, tough and proud as well. Showing their status, position and heritage , this was displayed by their tattoos. Almost disappeared during the last century a revival can be seen in the Netherlands as some reallign, rediscover and identify again with their roots and culture. FYI: the manual tattooing with the little hammer is less painful as the modern machine used in the present day parlors...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M63lrcH-hJU&t=38s

dat_man · 11th October 2021, 02:09 PM

Ainu sword dance
It takes some time for swords to take part

https://youtu.be/ynS955uVKqc

https://youtu.be/x9Lr4hVd7Ys

https://youtu.be/b8ECF5kpHe8

gp · 14th June 2022, 11:22 PM

courtesy to ariel who pointed me to a zeibek yataghan and the zeibek warriors.
Zeybeks, or sometimes Zeibeks /Greek: Ζεϊμπέκοι Zeibekoi; Ottoman Turkish: زیبك, romanized: zeybek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udRl7lsvtj0

by the way, the "eagle"movements are also to be found in the Caucasus peoples dance lezginka (Lezgisch: Лезги кьуьл; Russian: лезгинка; Azeri: Ləzgihəngi; Ossetian: тымбыл кафт, зилгæ кафт) where men stand for / symbolize the eagle and the women for the swan in their movements

FYI: at 2:03 min the 2nd dance starts and the title mentions "ince"which means hawk in Turkish
Clearly can also be recognized by the swift flying movements ( of a hawk) which differ from an eagle's

23rd June 2020, 10:20 PM	#2
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	our dearest friends in Mexico were in Precolumbian times already very familiar with sword & club like weapons like the Aztec's Macuahuitl ( the one with feathers called 'hungry wood') and a similar one from the Maya's ( called 'blade runner") Hence they had no issue replacing it in later times by the machete. Incorporated into a dance on Mariachi music. Like these Native Americans from Mexico in the 1st YouTube film Don't try this at home... unless you finish a bottle of Mescal .... and eat the worm.... arriba....andele https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esRnl2PlxzA and if your name is not Speedy Gonzales..., you can always start like this little muchacho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ykp-YVpGPU Attached Images Last edited by gp; 24th June 2020 at 02:50 PM.

3rd September 2020, 10:33 PM	#3
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	a Tamil dance from India 1949 with knives @ 1:40 min. by the Travancore Sisters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HUpgOmxdFI Attached Images

3rd September 2020, 10:56 PM	#4
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	in the Netherlands there is a big Mollucan community, most from the Southern Islands like (Ambon), but each with their own traditions and cultural variety Hereby 3 examples from the Northern Islands being wardances : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEi2zZsxIlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umgOUzzQtQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WGMCfupIxg Fierce not only by their looks but these men were fierce as warriors as well, a picture of WW II and one from 1874 in Atjeh Attached Images Last edited by gp; 4th September 2020 at 01:41 AM.

7th September 2020, 03:55 PM	#5
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,882	Scottish sword dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZCT8H-Hpbc Georgian dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OsAsJejxJY Korean sword dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtJfefdr2Gc Dance from Bougainville Island https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5AEbo53SHo Indonesian Barong dance (from 6:20) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5O8gnQh5Po Aceh knife dance (final part of the clip) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvClxcLqxpc And another (from around 29:30) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMcbwZaDVM0 Last edited by mariusgmioc; 7th September 2020 at 04:25 PM.

28th September 2020, 11:30 PM	#7
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	War Dance in Congo of the Ba Mongo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFT-TeUrP4 the Konda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koQ0ynPZQGA and the Kuba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oStCNLZBjUM Last edited by gp; 28th September 2020 at 11:50 PM.

21st June 2020, 11:35 PM	#1
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	Sioux ghost and buffalo dance filmed by Thomas Edison in 1894 (only the first 20 secs one can clearly see some weapons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQGW5a0q51w

9th September 2020, 07:37 AM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,044	Dance for Ogun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W82tnya3cnk

11th October 2021, 02:09 PM	#9
dat_man Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 16	Ainu sword dance It takes some time for swords to take part https://youtu.be/ynS955uVKqc https://youtu.be/x9Lr4hVd7Ys https://youtu.be/b8ECF5kpHe8

14th June 2022, 11:22 PM	#10
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	courtesy to ariel who pointed me to a zeibek yataghan and the zeibek warriors. Zeybeks, or sometimes Zeibeks /Greek: Ζεϊμπέκοι Zeibekoi; Ottoman Turkish: زیبك, romanized: zeybek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udRl7lsvtj0 by the way, the "eagle"movements are also to be found in the Caucasus peoples dance lezginka (Lezgisch: Лезги кьуьл; Russian: лезгинка; Azeri: Ləzgihəngi; Ossetian: тымбыл кафт, зилгæ кафт) where men stand for / symbolize the eagle and the women for the swan in their movements FYI: at 2:03 min the 2nd dance starts and the title mentions "ince"which means hawk in Turkish Clearly can also be recognized by the swift flying movements ( of a hawk) which differ from an eagle's Last edited by gp; 15th June 2022 at 12:28 AM.