IVORY FOR POMMEL

Rafngard · 16th October 2020, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by xasterix

Thanks sir! Here are "raw" pre-restoration pics of the hawkbell-guard kris.

That is a really interesting piece. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it.

Battara · 17th October 2020, 06:21 AM

This again proves a lot of trade between Philippine groups. Fascinating isn't it?

xasterix · 13th May 2021, 08:21 AM

Hello everyone...would like to ask your opinions on this pommel. I'm still in the process of restoring the rest of the kris, but I suspect this is ivory. Would appreciate your inputs, thanks!

Athanase · 13th May 2021, 10:44 AM

It's clearly Elephant ivory. Very nice patina.

Sajen · 13th May 2021, 11:21 AM

Agree!

xasterix · 13th May 2021, 11:29 AM

Thanks very much gentlemen =)

jokrho · 13th May 2021, 11:57 AM

Good day Gentlemen. Would like to ascertain as well if these two hilts are ivory, and if so, whether it be of marine (whale, manatee) or terrestrial (elephant, hippo) origin. Thanks in advance.

Job A.

Athanase · 13th May 2021, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jokrho

Good day Gentlemen. Would like to ascertain as well if these two hilts are ivory, and if so, whether it be of marine (whale, manatee) or terrestrial (elephant, hippo) origin. Thanks in advance.

Job A.

The first is elephante ivory. The second isn't elephant, maybe Dugong or Spermwhale or walrus.

David · 13th May 2021, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Athanase

It's clearly Elephant ivory. Very nice patina.

Agreed. This is very clearly elephant ivory and the Schreger lines are quite evident.
As was mentioned earlier in this thread, only elephant ivory displays Schreger lines.
Technically speaking i don't believe sperm whale tooth is actually consider "ivory", though for general purposes it is often declared as "marine ivory" and displays many of the qualities of ivory.

Will M · 13th May 2021, 08:07 PM

This link will clear any confusion and shows how to tell different ivory types and imitations.

https://cites.org/sites/default/file...vory-guide.pdf

Ren Ren · 13th May 2021, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Will M

This link will clear any confusion and shows how to tell different ivory types and imitations.

https://cites.org/sites/default/file...vory-guide.pdf

Thank you! This is useful information.

jokrho · 13th May 2021, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Will M

This link will clear any confusion and shows how to tell different ivory types and imitations.

https://cites.org/sites/default/file...vory-guide.pdf

Cool! Thanks for this.

13th May 2021, 08:21 AM	#3
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 598	Hello everyone...would like to ask your opinions on this pommel. I'm still in the process of restoring the rest of the kris, but I suspect this is ivory. Would appreciate your inputs, thanks! Attached Images

13th May 2021, 11:57 AM	#7
jokrho Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Manila Posts: 11	Good day Gentlemen. Would like to ascertain as well if these two hilts are ivory, and if so, whether it be of marine (whale, manatee) or terrestrial (elephant, hippo) origin. Thanks in advance. Job A. Attached Images

17th October 2020, 06:21 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,141	This again proves a lot of trade between Philippine groups. Fascinating isn't it?

13th May 2021, 10:44 AM	#4
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 406	It's clearly Elephant ivory. Very nice patina.

13th May 2021, 11:21 AM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,572	Agree!

13th May 2021, 11:29 AM	#6
xasterix Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 598	Thanks very much gentlemen =)

13th May 2021, 08:07 PM	#10
Will M Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In the wee woods north of Napanee Ontario Posts: 390	This link will clear any confusion and shows how to tell different ivory types and imitations. https://cites.org/sites/default/file...vory-guide.pdf