Punk Rocker's Keris

ganjawulung · 23rd May 2007, 07:43 AM

Hi Guys,

This really a modern keris. But I don't think not "a deconstructive concept" keris yet. This keris is especially designed by Gus Im (younger brother of former Presiden Abdurrahman Wahid) and or course, ornamented with "nose ring" and "tindhik" (gold pins in the blade) as if punk rocker, but made by Madurese keris maker. Many Gus Im's creation on keris, ultra modern. And with certain modern calculation, but also carefully calculate the past tradition during the making of the keris. Gus Im is a Kiai (cleric?) who like rock music, and modern science. Intelectual, but not a narrow-minded person. This keris was exhibited too in the Bentara Budaya Jakarta Keris Exhibition 2006...

brekele · 23rd May 2007, 08:03 AM

Wow..nice combination idea. KRIS & ROCK. Two diffrent world live in peace

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Newsteel · 23rd May 2007, 09:09 AM

Eeee. I'll pass this blade.

Don't know about you guys but the carving on the hilt look neat. A close up picture of the hilt please.

Hmmm... Keris Rock... Chris Rock... Isn't that the US rock singer

ganjawulung · 23rd May 2007, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newsteel

Eeee. I'll pass this blade.

Don't know about you guys but the carving on the hilt look neat. A close up picture of the hilt please.

Hmmm... Keris Rock... Chris Rock... Isn't that the US rock singer

Yeeeaaah..

The hilt was especially designed for this keris too. The carving, and the "red" color. And even there is a one karat diamond above the nose ring. Really good diamond. I will close up the hilt, especially for you soon...

Marcokeris · 23rd May 2007, 11:07 AM

Also i like the hilt : half Solo half Madura style
about rock keris

.......i prefer the sweet gamelan music

ganjawulung · 23rd May 2007, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newsteel

Eeee. I'll pass this blade.

Don't know about you guys but the carving on the hilt look neat. A close up picture of the hilt please.

Hi Newsteel,

This is the close up of the hilt you request... It was made only one piece, and specially designed by Gus Im. (He likes Bon Jovi and Axle Rose). Hope you'll enjoy this "rocker's hilt"...

A. G. Maisey · 23rd May 2007, 11:23 PM

Looks like a putri kinurung to me.

Alam Shah · 24th May 2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Looks like a putri kinurung to me.

The outline does looks similar, but the carvings does not.

Alam Shah · 24th May 2007, 12:38 AM

The ricikan at the back of the blade (below the 6 gold dots) looks more like a turtle beak. Just my imagination.

A. G. Maisey · 24th May 2007, 02:50 AM

Oh yes---you're right---I missed all that foliate carving.I'll try to remember to look at all the pics next time.

ganjawulung · 24th May 2007, 06:57 AM

I agree with Alan and Shahrial,
So? Maybe it is good to call this rocker's hilt as: "Madurese Putri Kinurung". Another angle from this rocker's keris in this following picture:

Alam Shah · 24th May 2007, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

I agree with Alan and Shahrial,
So? Maybe it is good to call this rocker's hilt as: "Madurese Putri Kinurung". Another angle from this rocker's keris in this following picture:

I wonder how the blade is sheathed? Won't the gold ring be an obstruction?

ganjawulung · 24th May 2007, 07:28 AM

Shahrial,
I took this pictures last year. And unfortunately, I forgot to take fotos of the sheath. If I'm not mistaken, the sheath is Solonese gayaman, iras (one piece of wood) and of "jati gembol" wood his favorite. Jati gembol, is the "sick" teak wood, so the grain of the wood is more illustrious. The sheath's hole is normal, maybe a little bit wider in the ring's part. Anyway, no problem with the sheath..

Alam Shah · 24th May 2007, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Shahrial,
I took this pictures last year. And unfortunately, I forgot to take fotos of the sheath. If I'm not mistaken, the sheath is Solonese gayaman, iras (one piece of wood) and of "jati gembol" wood his favorite. Jati gembol, is the "sick" teak wood, so the grain of the wood is more illustrious. The sheath's hole is normal, maybe a little bit wider in the ring's part. Anyway, no problem with the sheath..

I see... probably a wider opening (cross-cut), to accomodate the ring. Thanks.

A. G. Maisey · 24th May 2007, 09:18 AM

Alam Shah, forgive me, but jati gembol, or burl teak is formed the same as any other burl in wood.

It is a growth that is caused by the cells in the wood dividing and growing too much, a bit like cancer in a human being.

The things that can cause this are a branch that did not grow properly, or an infection, or an injury.

If you take material from around the roots, you can sometimes get a burl-like effect, and sometimes also find material with high chatoyancy, but the material from the butt of a tree is not burl.For instance, with akasia, the wood from around the root is usually the most highly chatoyant, but it is not burl.

Any burl can be beautiful, but probably the pick of all burl timber is thuya burl which comes from north Africa and Morocco.

The major problem with jati gembol as a wrongko wood is that it is very inclined to move---it is very unstable. You can make , say, a sandang walikat terusan from it in the wet season, and come dry season you may not be able to get the blade into it. Similar things can happen when you bring a wrongko from jati gembol to Australia, and then send it to, say, Arizona. In a super dry climate those beautiful grains can open right up. Curing is not the answer, and it does not happen with all pieces of this material, but it does happen often enough to cause some problems.

Alam Shah · 24th May 2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

... The major problem with jati gembol as a wrongko wood is that it is very inclined to move---it is very unstable. You can make , say, a sandang walikat terusan from it in the wet season, and come dry season you may not be able to get the blade into it. Similar things can happen when you bring a wrongko from jati gembol to Australia, and then send it to, say, Arizona. In a super dry climate those beautiful grains can open right up.

I agree, I've got a few pieces which came back from Europe and other places which have 4 seasons, and I've seen it taking its toll on the wood. A few weeks of tender loving care could fix this. If it still cannot, off it goes to a tukang (craftsman) for corrective works.

Oppss! My mis understanding. Thanks for the update.

23rd May 2007, 07:43 AM	#1
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Punk Rocker's Keris Hi Guys, This really a modern keris. But I don't think not "a deconstructive concept" keris yet. This keris is especially designed by Gus Im (younger brother of former Presiden Abdurrahman Wahid) and or course, ornamented with "nose ring" and "tindhik" (gold pins in the blade) as if punk rocker, but made by Madurese keris maker. Many Gus Im's creation on keris, ultra modern. And with certain modern calculation, but also carefully calculate the past tradition during the making of the keris. Gus Im is a Kiai (cleric?) who like rock music, and modern science. Intelectual, but not a narrow-minded person. This keris was exhibited too in the Bentara Budaya Jakarta Keris Exhibition 2006... Attached Images

24th May 2007, 06:57 AM	#11
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	I agree with Alan and Shahrial, So? Maybe it is good to call this rocker's hilt as: "Madurese Putri Kinurung". Another angle from this rocker's keris in this following picture: Attached Images

23rd May 2007, 08:03 AM	#2
brekele Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 208	Wow..nice combination idea. KRIS & ROCK. Two diffrent world live in peace .

23rd May 2007, 09:09 AM	#3
Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	Eeee. I'll pass this blade. Don't know about you guys but the carving on the hilt look neat. A close up picture of the hilt please. Hmmm... Keris Rock... Chris Rock... Isn't that the US rock singer

23rd May 2007, 11:07 AM	#5
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Also i like the hilt : half Solo half Madura style about rock keris .......i prefer the sweet gamelan music

23rd May 2007, 11:23 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,698	Looks like a putri kinurung to me.

24th May 2007, 12:38 AM	#9
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	The ricikan at the back of the blade (below the 6 gold dots) looks more like a turtle beak. Just my imagination.

24th May 2007, 02:50 AM	#10
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,698	Oh yes---you're right---I missed all that foliate carving.I'll try to remember to look at all the pics next time.

24th May 2007, 07:28 AM	#13
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Shahrial, I took this pictures last year. And unfortunately, I forgot to take fotos of the sheath. If I'm not mistaken, the sheath is Solonese gayaman, iras (one piece of wood) and of "jati gembol" wood his favorite. Jati gembol, is the "sick" teak wood, so the grain of the wood is more illustrious. The sheath's hole is normal, maybe a little bit wider in the ring's part. Anyway, no problem with the sheath..

24th May 2007, 09:18 AM	#15
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,698	Alam Shah, forgive me, but jati gembol, or burl teak is formed the same as any other burl in wood. It is a growth that is caused by the cells in the wood dividing and growing too much, a bit like cancer in a human being. The things that can cause this are a branch that did not grow properly, or an infection, or an injury. If you take material from around the roots, you can sometimes get a burl-like effect, and sometimes also find material with high chatoyancy, but the material from the butt of a tree is not burl.For instance, with akasia, the wood from around the root is usually the most highly chatoyant, but it is not burl. Any burl can be beautiful, but probably the pick of all burl timber is thuya burl which comes from north Africa and Morocco. The major problem with jati gembol as a wrongko wood is that it is very inclined to move---it is very unstable. You can make , say, a sandang walikat terusan from it in the wet season, and come dry season you may not be able to get the blade into it. Similar things can happen when you bring a wrongko from jati gembol to Australia, and then send it to, say, Arizona. In a super dry climate those beautiful grains can open right up. Curing is not the answer, and it does not happen with all pieces of this material, but it does happen often enough to cause some problems.