Is this Japanese military?

Alan62 · 28th February 2006, 02:34 AM

The reason I am thinking Japanese is the flowers on the Guard.
Any ideas

Thanks for any help

Rivkin · 28th February 2006, 04:23 AM

Looks like it, but it would really help the identification if we are to see the sword's guard from below.

This guy is quite unusual, because I think >95% of japanese sabres have chrisantem on the handle as well (there is a metal thingy that goes together with the wire wrap).

Rich · 28th February 2006, 12:01 PM

I don't think it's Japanese. The hilt style is wrong and the
blade style is wrong. Don't know what it is, but pretty sure
not Japanese. See my Japanese sword site and go to the
various military swords pages for examples of nearly all types
of Japanese military swords.

http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/nihonto.htm

or

http://www.geocities.com/alchemyst/nihonto.htm

Rich S

Alan62 · 28th February 2006, 12:39 PM

Thanks Guys

By the way great site Rich I have been there a few times and in fact it saved me from buying a really well done fake Officers sword.
So thank you for your efforts there.

These are the only other pics i have of this one maybe they will help ID it

Thanks Again

Valjhun · 28th February 2006, 01:02 PM

It isn't japanese for sure, That flower is not the chrisantemum symbol. The hilt looks german in shape.... No such sword appears in the Fullers Military and Civilian Japanese Swords 1868 - 1945

Wow Rich!

That site is yours? Gorgeus! I used it a lot by the time I was a novice collector (well, I'm still a novice collector, but I have now a lot of books about swords

)

Jens Nordlunde · 28th February 2006, 01:43 PM

When I first saw the flowers (pic. 2), I thought it was Indian, but when I saw the last picture of the decoration, then I am not so sure. Could it be European?

Rich · 28th February 2006, 04:21 PM

Thanks guys, yes The Japanese Sword Index is my site.
Been building it for about 10 years with input and articles
from lots of folks. Glad you all find it useful; that's what
it's all about :-)

Rich

Rivkin · 28th February 2006, 04:26 PM

After Professor Rich it makes really not much sense for me to voice my opinion, but this guy is not japanese and the flower is not a chrisantem.

Alan62 · 1st March 2006, 01:04 AM

Thanks guys
I just thought maybe that one flower looked kinda like a cherry blossom or something.
It maybe Prussian or ....who knows

28th February 2006, 02:34 AM	#1
Alan62 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 164	Is this Japanese military? The reason I am thinking Japanese is the flowers on the Guard. Any ideas Thanks for any help

28th February 2006, 04:23 AM	#2
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	Looks like it, but it would really help the identification if we are to see the sword's guard from below. This guy is quite unusual, because I think >95% of japanese sabres have chrisantem on the handle as well (there is a metal thingy that goes together with the wire wrap).

28th February 2006, 12:01 PM	#3
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	I don't think it's Japanese. The hilt style is wrong and the blade style is wrong. Don't know what it is, but pretty sure not Japanese. See my Japanese sword site and go to the various military swords pages for examples of nearly all types of Japanese military swords. http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/nihonto.htm or http://www.geocities.com/alchemyst/nihonto.htm Rich S

28th February 2006, 12:39 PM	#4
Alan62 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 164	Thanks Guys By the way great site Rich I have been there a few times and in fact it saved me from buying a really well done fake Officers sword. So thank you for your efforts there. These are the only other pics i have of this one maybe they will help ID it Thanks Again

28th February 2006, 01:02 PM	#5
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	It isn't japanese for sure, That flower is not the chrisantemum symbol. The hilt looks german in shape.... No such sword appears in the Fullers Military and Civilian Japanese Swords 1868 - 1945 Wow Rich! That site is yours? Gorgeus! I used it a lot by the time I was a novice collector (well, I'm still a novice collector, but I have now a lot of books about swords )

28th February 2006, 01:43 PM	#6
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,713	When I first saw the flowers (pic. 2), I thought it was Indian, but when I saw the last picture of the decoration, then I am not so sure. Could it be European?

28th February 2006, 04:21 PM	#7
Rich Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: comfortably at home, USA Posts: 432	Thanks guys, yes The Japanese Sword Index is my site. Been building it for about 10 years with input and articles from lots of folks. Glad you all find it useful; that's what it's all about :-) Rich

28th February 2006, 04:26 PM	#8
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	After Professor Rich it makes really not much sense for me to voice my opinion, but this guy is not japanese and the flower is not a chrisantem.

1st March 2006, 01:04 AM	#9
Alan62 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 164	Thanks guys I just thought maybe that one flower looked kinda like a cherry blossom or something. It maybe Prussian or ....who knows