Three new from Luzon

Rafngard · 26th July 2016, 03:28 AM

Hello All,

Picturepoluza 2016 continues with three more recent acquisitions, this time with 2 bolos and a dagger from Luzon. All three have handles made from (mostly) carabao horn, brass fittings and leather scabbards. All seem to have the characteristic peened tang. The tooling on the leather scabbards makes me happy.

I think the first bolo and the dagger are both from Batangas. I suspect the bolo is 19th century, and the dagger is WWII era, based largely on similar ones I've seen on the interwebs, but these are mostly guesses. The dagger's handle is in the form of a horse head. Sadly one eye has suffered from damage (insects, presumably). The bolo's tip seems to have been damaged. Amusingly, though it's not clear from the photos, the resulting third "edge" where the tip broke of has been sharpened.

The second bolo is from Apilit, as can be seem from the markings, and I suspect is WWII era. The horn on the handle has suffered some damage (more noticeable in the photos than in person) as has the leather scabbard, but this one in particular is lively in the hand. It wants to move. Because I study Kali, I'm not ashamed to admit that I've more than once (very slowly and carefully) practiced sinawali patterns with this one and the Batangas bolo.

This thread has more on Apalit

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=Apalit

As does this one.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=Apalit

As always, any thoughts, comment, and/or corrections are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Leif

Rafngard · 26th July 2016, 03:30 AM

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Rafngard · 26th July 2016, 03:33 AM

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Sajen · 26th July 2016, 06:38 PM

Hello Leif,

all three pieces have been on my watch list and have thought about to go for them, most interesting has been the Apalit bolo, a very nice knife. Nice also that Apalit is seen on blade and scabbard. I think that it is older as you think, would place it between 1900-1930.

The dagger is a beauty but I was afraid by the bug damage on the one side of the handle, the seller picture of this side was dark and not sharp, sadly you as well don't want to show it really!

I would agree that it is from Batangas but think that it is pre WWII, the later examples have sometimes aluminium inlays instead of brass. Would really like to see the bad side of the handle to know if I should be very jealous or only a little bit!

The other bolo with chipped point could be Batangas but I am unsure, age around turn of the centuries, nice piece as well but the broken tip of the blade let me dither. When it was suddenly sold I was a little bit sad but think it come to good hands. I would think about to let reshape the tip when it would be mine.

Regards,
Detlef

Rafngard · 27th July 2016, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

all three pieces have been on my watch list and have thought about to go for them

I'm getting the impression we have similar collecting tastes. Great minds...

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Originally Posted by Sajen

The dagger is a beauty but I was afraid by the bug damage on the one side of the handle, the seller picture of this side was dark and not sharp, sadly you as well don't want to show it really!

[...] Would really like to see the bad side of the handle to know if I should be very jealous or only a little bit!

Strangely, of all the pictures I took that day, this is the only one that came out blurry! Maybe it's cursed.
I'll try to take a more clear picture of that when next it's convenient. In regards to the damage, I think it's not terrible (I'd still buy the item), but it's definitely not good.

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Originally Posted by Sajen

The other bolo with chipped point could be Batangas but I am unsure, age around turn of the centuries, nice piece as well but the broken tip of the blade let me dither. When it was suddenly sold I was a little bit sad but think it come to good hands. I would think about to let reshape the tip when it would be mine.

I'd been watching it a while. I think what happened was that I'd just lost another item, and was frustrated, and decided "screw it!" and just bought it. I've done that more than once, and have yet to regret it.

I've thought about trying to get the tip reshaped, but really, the fact that someone sharpened the edge where the top broke off kind of amuses me so much that I'll probably leave it. It's the tiniest cutting edge ever.

Have fun,
Leif

Sajen · 27th July 2016, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rafngard

I'm getting the impression we have similar collecting tastes. Great minds...

Yes, it seems that we have choosen the same part of the world to collect sharp ethnograhic things from.

26th July 2016, 03:28 AM	#1
Rafngard Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 327	Three new from Luzon Hello All, Picturepoluza 2016 continues with three more recent acquisitions, this time with 2 bolos and a dagger from Luzon. All three have handles made from (mostly) carabao horn, brass fittings and leather scabbards. All seem to have the characteristic peened tang. The tooling on the leather scabbards makes me happy. I think the first bolo and the dagger are both from Batangas. I suspect the bolo is 19th century, and the dagger is WWII era, based largely on similar ones I've seen on the interwebs, but these are mostly guesses. The dagger's handle is in the form of a horse head. Sadly one eye has suffered from damage (insects, presumably). The bolo's tip seems to have been damaged. Amusingly, though it's not clear from the photos, the resulting third "edge" where the tip broke of has been sharpened. The second bolo is from Apilit, as can be seem from the markings, and I suspect is WWII era. The horn on the handle has suffered some damage (more noticeable in the photos than in person) as has the leather scabbard, but this one in particular is lively in the hand. It wants to move. Because I study Kali, I'm not ashamed to admit that I've more than once (very slowly and carefully) practiced sinawali patterns with this one and the Batangas bolo. This thread has more on Apalit http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=Apalit As does this one. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=Apalit As always, any thoughts, comment, and/or corrections are greatly appreciated. Thanks, Leif Attached Images

26th July 2016, 03:30 AM	#2
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26th July 2016, 06:38 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,545	Hello Leif, all three pieces have been on my watch list and have thought about to go for them, most interesting has been the Apalit bolo, a very nice knife. Nice also that Apalit is seen on blade and scabbard. I think that it is older as you think, would place it between 1900-1930. The dagger is a beauty but I was afraid by the bug damage on the one side of the handle, the seller picture of this side was dark and not sharp, sadly you as well don't want to show it really! I would agree that it is from Batangas but think that it is pre WWII, the later examples have sometimes aluminium inlays instead of brass. Would really like to see the bad side of the handle to know if I should be very jealous or only a little bit! The other bolo with chipped point could be Batangas but I am unsure, age around turn of the centuries, nice piece as well but the broken tip of the blade let me dither. When it was suddenly sold I was a little bit sad but think it come to good hands. I would think about to let reshape the tip when it would be mine. Regards, Detlef