Knife (?) with silver inscriptions

thomas hauschild · 5th August 2021, 07:04 PM

Hi

I got this indonesian (?) piece. I like to know a translation of the silver inscription please. Thanks a lot.

Best Thomas

Battara · 6th August 2021, 02:35 AM

Almost looks Balinese in form, so yes I think Indonesian would be a good guess.

Hope someone can help with the translation. There is a probability that it is in Jawi, which would mean that although it is in Arabic script, it wouldn't be Arabic.

Another thought, could it be a repurposed Balinese piece?

Ian · 6th August 2021, 03:29 PM

Hi Thomas,

I think you have a betel knife that may be from Indonesia but could also be Malaysian or Thai. I am interested to hear what the inscription says.

thomas hauschild · 7th August 2021, 08:04 PM

Heard from a different source, that it is from bali. The inscriptions means ( what I have expected ) more or less „allah is great“ in some more words.

Best Thomas

Oliver Pinchot · 7th August 2021, 08:45 PM

That's pretty much it. One one side is written, Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim (Blessing of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.)

Klop · 8th August 2021, 09:23 AM

the inscription is Islamic but the main relegion of Bali is Hinduism, not sure if that is contradictive or regular practice. Anyhow a nice piece!

Kind regards,Eric.

Sajen · 9th August 2021, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas hauschild

Heard from a different source, that it is from bali. The inscriptions means ( what I have expected ) more or less „allah is great“ in some more words.

Hello Thomas,
It's for sure not Balinese, the form is wrong and "Allah is great" make no sense on an island with mainly Hindu population.

I guess Malaysia or Southern Thailand as origin.

Regards,
Detlef

ausjulius · 10th August 2021, 04:15 AM

its a good question normally id say pattani . just because of the angled pommel which is common on knives in that area aswel as kedah and yala and. the shape is like knives and tools from lombok and bali though.. but the pommels nearly always are more cone like.. id say southern thailand malay

5th August 2021, 07:04 PM	#1
thomas hauschild Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 139	Knife (?) with silver inscriptions Hi I got this indonesian (?) piece. I like to know a translation of the silver inscription please. Thanks a lot. Best Thomas Attached Images

6th August 2021, 02:35 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,139	Almost looks Balinese in form, so yes I think Indonesian would be a good guess. Hope someone can help with the translation. There is a probability that it is in Jawi, which would mean that although it is in Arabic script, it wouldn't be Arabic. Another thought, could it be a repurposed Balinese piece?

6th August 2021, 03:29 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,041	Hi Thomas, I think you have a betel knife that may be from Indonesia but could also be Malaysian or Thai. I am interested to hear what the inscription says.

7th August 2021, 08:04 PM	#4
thomas hauschild Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 139	Heard from a different source, that it is from bali. The inscriptions means ( what I have expected ) more or less „allah is great“ in some more words. Best Thomas

7th August 2021, 08:45 PM	#5
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 456	That's pretty much it. One one side is written, Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim (Blessing of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.)

8th August 2021, 09:23 AM	#6
Klop Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 59	the inscription is Islamic but the main relegion of Bali is Hinduism, not sure if that is contradictive or regular practice. Anyhow a nice piece! Kind regards,Eric.

10th August 2021, 04:15 AM	#8
ausjulius Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: musorian territory Posts: 415	its a good question normally id say pattani . just because of the angled pommel which is common on knives in that area aswel as kedah and yala and. the shape is like knives and tools from lombok and bali though.. but the pommels nearly always are more cone like.. id say southern thailand malay