Baluchistan/Omani shamshir

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by ariel

I am not wedded to it. Would love to discuss and change my opinion.

I'm glad to read that.
So let's do it

First, of course, you are right it's a balutch sword.

then

Originally Posted by ariel

IMHO, the national character of the sword is determined by its furniture.
As you can see, I am an adherent of the Polish school of attribution:-)

I agree too. And a Spanish / South American blade on a Moroccan berber sword is a Berber sword...

Originally Posted by ariel

The only Persian feature here is the blade ( likely).

This saber comes from a part of India, has a typical Sindhi handle, but has Omani feature of silver wire by the crossguard.

It has an Arabian baldric instead of Persian suspension rings.

Here I disagree, you have 2 suspension rings on the scabbard.

The gorgeous baldric was added later.

The leather work and guard look Persian.

I feel that this sword was a Persian shamshir refurbished in Balutchistan, with Omani silver work influences...

[ihutch1]

Ariel, what a beautiful, complete set. Very lucky!

Apologies for the imposition, but may I request a photo of the back side of the baldric straps? I'm very interested in the design and construction, I'd like to have a go replicating it.

Thanks for sharing this!

[CharlesS]

Ariel,

Here is an example I acquired at the Baltimore show. You can see stylistically they are so similar. The baldric is mounted in a different style.

The blade is good quality wootz, but I believe there is something about the cartouches that upset the owner...one has been completely erased, and there seems to have been an attempt to erase the other one above it.

It's always nice when we can find swords so complete.

[ariel]

These pommels with down-turned configuration always reminded me of “camel head” Indian ones with “dulla”, a highly unappetizing protrusion of saliva- covered mucosa that appears during camel’s sexual excitement.

What do females find attractive about it, and why could not a male just hold a bouquet of roses in his mouth instead, makes sense only to a camel....

[CharlesS]

Ariel, it's a shame that's all your saw in that sword. What a sad, loathsome, example it is!

[ariel]

Charles and everybody,
I sincerely apologize to each and every member of the gender Camelus, both Dromedaries and Bactrians, for my ethnophobic attitude. My only explanation that one of their representatives almost ( repeat: almost !) bit my wifeÂ’s shoulder on our honeymoon trip to the Red Sea.
I tried to convince her that the creature just gave her a kiss, as a congratulation on her marriage, but to no avail. I had to take sides and, as all of you of male persuasion understand, took my wife’s side for the rest of my life. Threat of immediate divorce overcame my sincere love for those adorable, highly intelligent and proud creatures.

But, on a more serious note, what I have just paid attention to, your example lacks the Omani silver knot, which makes me suspect it is a high-class purely Baluch example, without Omani influence.