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Old 16th February 2022, 08:35 PM   #1
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Default Indonesian Knife for Identification

Another recent acquisition. These are dealer's pictures, I've not yet seen the item in person, and of course have no dimensions to share.

As with my previous post it seems that paper has been used to wedge the blade into a damaged hilt, and it will need a clean. The scabbard is missing its locket and rattan bands.

I assume this is a Tjikeroeh blade, and probably for domestic use?

I'm unsure of its exact classification and would welcome any information.

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Old 16th February 2022, 09:02 PM   #2
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It is a 'Bendo' form Cikeruh, Java.

TJIKR on the blade is an abbreviation of Tjikeroeh (old spelling of Cikeruh).

The Bendo is mainly used for cutting rattan.
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Old 17th February 2022, 12:01 AM   #3
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Hello JM,

A lot stuff to read but it may help: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=bedok

For deeper understanding:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=bendo

further: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=bedok

You can call it bendho, some will agree but to my understanding it's a bedok.

But Albert can maybe tell us from where he took this name bendo for these knives?
There was a long discussion about this name game before, see second posted thread.

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Old 17th February 2022, 11:15 AM   #4
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Good example!

I agree with Detlef: Bedok seems to be the best supported name for these utility blades.

As usual, names can change from one village to the next, etc.!

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Old 17th February 2022, 11:02 PM   #5
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Hello Jerseyman,

I am pretty sure that this scabbard had brass bands, and not rattan or horn like others.

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Old 18th February 2022, 07:41 AM   #6
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I am pretty sure that this scabbard had brass bands, and not rattan or horn like others.
I'm with Willem here: Looks like staining left by brass bands.

The missing mouthpiece of the scabbard might have been from wood (or horn) - anyway, seems to have been covered by brass, too.

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Old 18th February 2022, 04:34 AM   #7
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Bedog, how "G" pronounced in the end is similar to clog
As far as i remember, most of people in West Java to the border of Central Java to West Java (Cirebon, Tegal and Purworkerto) will call it as bedog
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Good example!

I agree with Detlef: Bedok seems to be the best supported name for these utility blades.

As usual, names can change from one village to the next, etc.!

Regards,
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Old 18th February 2022, 06:35 AM   #8
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bedog or bedok ?

"g" as in "dog", or a glottal stop?
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Old 18th February 2022, 07:33 AM   #9
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Thanks for catching that, Anton!

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Bedog, how "G" pronounced in the end is similar to clog
As far as i remember, most of people in West Java to the border of Central Java to West Java (Cirebon, Tegal and Purworkerto) will call it as bedog
This is most likely also true for the heart of Sunda: Rigg 1862 (A dictionary of the Sunda language of Java) also gives it as Bedog!

Note to self: Always double-check!

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