shipping ex USA ....

[gp]

Originally Posted by TVV

The US laws are not the problem. It is the UK laws that are restrictive, and as a result certain items cannot be shipped to the UK.

But I live in the Netherlands, which never was, is and never ever will be part of the UK ( fortunately.. )

So if that was to be true, there would imply folks working in the eBay USA shipping department have no knowledge whatsoever on geography...

I know geography is not a strong developed subject in the USA, but I do not believe it to be the case in their international shipping departments (speaking from 30 years experience on international transactions and being a customs SME, also having worked 20 years for US companies in their int. departments ... : they do know that topic very well ! )

But the rule is not only limited to the UK as it would look on first sight, as it can also (legally) be made applicable or interpretated to all non USA transactions.

The interpretation ( if you exclude the UK part) is to be understood due to the fact that the US legislation can be challenging and as eBay has to go for the fast buck and least to none issues, applying such a rule safeguards or avoids issues.

"Restricted items and categories

Items included in eBay's hazardous, restricted or regulated materials policy, or that don't follow our International trading policy, can't be shipped using eBay International Shipping.

Collectibles > Knives, swords & blades "


eBay sadly and simply does not follow other US auction sites, nor US auction houses and US individual sellers who do offer international shipping within the US legislation.

So any forum members in the good ol' U S of A will soon have a nice and cheap dagger available to buy

I believe it to be either Serbian but based on the hilt it might be Greek as well and if cleaned double to treble my purchase value...I was surprised that it went this cheap whilst being a month for sale...

[Sajen]

Hi Gunar,

The problem isn't the States and their laws but these weird "Global Shipping Program" many US sellers use, for some unknown reason they seem to think that it's forbidden to import any blades to European states.
When you want to purchase a blade from ebay US sellers make sure that they don't use these weird "GSP".

Regards,
Detlef

[gp]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Gunar,

The problem isn't the States and their laws but these weird "Global Shipping Program" many US sellers use, for some unknown reason they seem to think that it's forbidden to import any blades to European states.
When you want to purchase a blade from ebay US sellers make sure that they don't use these weird "GSP".

Regards,
Detlef

Thnx a lot / herzlichen Dank Detlef !

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by gp

So any forum members in the good ol' U S of A will soon have a nice and cheap dagger available to buy

I don't know what will happen with this nice knife but the seller won't will get it back so far I know!

[gp]

Originally Posted by Sajen

I don't know what will happen with this nice knife but the seller won't will get it back so far I know!

That is very bad !

[wildwolberine]

Originally Posted by gp

That is very bad !

This is true, I know from experience. I sold a WW2 Philippines knife to an Italian buyer & shipped via GSP. Was confiscated by auction platform, buyer was refunded. The knife was apparently resold to a third party as I saw the same knife for sale again a few weeks later. I didn’t lose money but the knife was lost. Needless to say I won’t do that again

[Ian]

Sending via eBay and others Global Shipping Programs is indeed problematic fro Australia also. However, another egregious policy makes it difficult to not use the GSP. If you ship via the site's shipping programs, either locally or internationally, you don't get paid until the item is actually received at the other end. If you ship privately, there is a further delay until eBay confirms that the item has actually been received.

Buying internationally at auction is another can of worms, especially buying from the U.K. Unless you are buying several items, the postage to Australia will likely exceed the cost of a single item, sometimes by 3–4 times.

[RAMBA]

Anything that may appear on these pages will be a restricted item with the Ebay Global Shipping Program T and Cs. Been like that for a long time. There is a very long list of GSP restricted items. Read all the issues with items being termed restricted by the GSP and confiscated. There is NO recourse. Heard of Japanese swords of some value being caught up in this. They do not consider the fact that you can't go buy another one like a pair of shoes.

It has nothing to do with your own countries laws etc.

Happened to me with a kukri from the UK. Advice is do not buy if seller is using GSP or have it shipped to a contact in USA/UK etc if you have one.

The seller may not even be aware that the GSP is being offered internationally and the T and Cs of the GSP. Apparently GSP is the default and has to be changed. Ebay don't mind you offering the item even through the GSP will mean it will be confiscated and sold locally.

[corrado26]

All this are the reasons why I never buy items outside the EU!!!

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Ian

If you ship privately, there is a further delay until eBay confirms that the item has actually been received.

Hi Ian,

Thats not true! As an ebay seller I know that this is not true. I get my money within a few days after the buyer pays.

Regards,
Detlef

[Lee]

Back when I was selling Lew's collection largely through eBay, I would spend a lot of time on the official eBay seller's and shipping forums, and one could find a lot of horror stories there about the GSP. Apparently, the contractor providing the service (Pitney-Bowes at the time, if I remember correctly) would often unwrap the parcels sent via their hub, inspect and repackage - sometimes with unhappy results (think nihonto) besides the inherent delay and increased costs. An occasional strangely routed or waylaid and thus delayed shipment aside, I never had serious difficulties directly sending using the Postal Service's International Priority Mail service.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Ian,

Thats not true! As an ebay seller I know that this is not true. I get my money within a few days after the buyer pays.

Regards,
Detlef

Then Australian eBay (ebay.com.au) must operate under a different set of rules. I only get paid once the delivery has been confirmed, whether locally or internationally.