simbol on koummiya dagger what is?

BerberDagger · 15th April 2007, 07:42 PM

hi,
in one of my koummiya dagger there is this symbol on end of scabbard....but i dont known abaut this simbol!! it is head of animal ....

this moroccan koummiya is very nice early XX sec quality silver koummiya, probably simbol is of european dagger or sword...do you known something abaut it

hello

ingelred · 15th April 2007, 09:12 PM

Hello,

I have a silver mounted koumiya with the same symbol on every silver part.
The symbol is a ram's head.
I asked a woman that is born in Morocco and according to what she said this is a symbol for the former capital of Morocco, Fes.
If I am wrong please correct me.

Best regards, Helge

archer · 4th June 2011, 10:06 PM

Hello, I'm seeking the same information. Swords & daggers page 30, by Mircea
Veleanu says, it is the mark of Sultan Hassan I (1873-1894). I'm wondering if it is an armory mark, silver quality? The mark appears on each separate piece.
A second one about 45 years younger has no marks for metal quality or the rams. Fez may well have been Hassan I s' capital. Any further info would be appreciated. Steve

Oh, second question do some hilt caps have exposed wood instead of being silver covered? Poorly phrased, please see second photo.

katana · 4th June 2011, 11:02 PM

Hi BerberDagger,
Worth looking at this ......

http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1694

Kind Regards David

archer · 5th June 2011, 01:13 AM

Is it likely the ram theme carried on with variations to identify time periods? I'm waiting for feedback from another Koummiya owner who seems to have some different marks with just opposing horns no head in side view.
Fez was Hassan Is HQ. David I've seen the 27 time reference in a thread in this forum recently. Thanks for the input that site may provide future assistance. Steve

15th April 2007, 07:42 PM	#1
BerberDagger Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 247	simbol on koummiya dagger what is? hi, in one of my koummiya dagger there is this symbol on end of scabbard....but i dont known abaut this simbol!! it is head of animal .... this moroccan koummiya is very nice early XX sec quality silver koummiya, probably simbol is of european dagger or sword...do you known something abaut it hello Attached Images

4th June 2011, 10:06 PM	#3
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	Rams head Symbol Hello, I'm seeking the same information. Swords & daggers page 30, by Mircea Veleanu says, it is the mark of Sultan Hassan I (1873-1894). I'm wondering if it is an armory mark, silver quality? The mark appears on each separate piece. A second one about 45 years younger has no marks for metal quality or the rams. Fez may well have been Hassan I s' capital. Any further info would be appreciated. Steve Oh, second question do some hilt caps have exposed wood instead of being silver covered? Poorly phrased, please see second photo. Attached Images Last edited by archer; 4th June 2011 at 10:24 PM.

5th June 2011, 01:13 AM	#5
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	Ram Markings in silver Is it likely the ram theme carried on with variations to identify time periods? I'm waiting for feedback from another Koummiya owner who seems to have some different marks with just opposing horns no head in side view. Fez was Hassan Is HQ. David I've seen the 27 time reference in a thread in this forum recently. Thanks for the input that site may provide future assistance. Steve

15th April 2007, 09:12 PM	#2
ingelred Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Moenchengladbach, Germany Posts: 62	Hello, I have a silver mounted koumiya with the same symbol on every silver part. The symbol is a ram's head. I asked a woman that is born in Morocco and according to what she said this is a symbol for the former capital of Morocco, Fes. If I am wrong please correct me. Best regards, Helge

4th June 2011, 11:02 PM	#4
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Hi BerberDagger, Worth looking at this ...... http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1694 Kind Regards David