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2nd February 2023, 09:03 PM | #1 |
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Jim, I too agree that your spearhead example to be a alam standard due to the decoration of thuluth and form, and like Ed stated, this would not funtion well in actual battle other than rallying the warriors. It is likely a ceremonial or parade piece. It is although a very nice example of the type. I have a similar examplar, with thuluth on a Mahdist replica throwing knife with symbolism of crescent moons, stars, and pseudo- Arabic writing that may just be imitated calligraphy. It is missing its grip which was likely reptile skin.
Also attached are pictures of a javelin head that comes from the Sudan Region. I still have not narrowed it in exacly where but it may originate between Chad, Darfur, and the Kordofan area (?) The blade fullers and shape remind me of Tubu and Darfur bladed short swords found in Western Sudan and Eastern Chad. The socket is however twisted and not typical for the area (?) I am assuming this at one point in its lifetime was complete with a shaft and possibly a butt which at one point broke and the reptile grip was added and became a scepter...something often seen during the Mahdist time period. See http://oriental-arms.co.il/item.php?id=3820 and http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1872 -Geoffrey Last edited by G. Mansfield; 2nd February 2023 at 09:13 PM. |
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I think trying to classify these items regionally is typically pretty futile as diffusion among tribal groups usually transcends geography. My example may well be intended ceremonially, likely in the daily assemblies held by the Khaliph for the following, as noted by Ed. Thank you again for these additions! Exactly what I was hoping for in examining these aspects of Sudanese arms. |
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2nd February 2023, 10:13 PM | #3 |
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Jim,
This may add to the discussion. See attachment, if it works. ON THE ARMS OF THE ARAB AND NEGRO TRIBES 01: CENTI~ALAFRICA, BOItDERINC: ON THE WHITE NILE. By John Petherick 1857 |
3rd February 2023, 11:39 PM | #4 |
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Thank you Ed for posting this article! I will add it to my records for future reference.
Tim, your spear is similar to one that I have. From the decoration notchings at the base, I believe it to be from the Shilluk and certainly old enough to fit into this time frame of the Mahdist period. The Kalifa spanned large swaths of Sudan (Mahdist map), so I will post it for relevancy and comparison. It is only the spearhead, missing the shaft, with a total length of 25 3/4 (Spearhead). Upon a closer look at the picture posted by both Jim and Tim (Baggara Emir), It looks like he may be carrying an arm dagger suspended from the shoulder rather than looped around the left arm in typical manner. I have never seen them worn this way. Can anybody else confirm this? It is the hourgalss shaped arm dagger form rather than the typical disc- shaped pommel often attributed to Khartoum and Omdurman. I will post one from my collection also for comparison (Arm dagger). It is a very old example, possibly pre-mahdi, although missing the arm loop. -Geoffrey |
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