shipping ex USA ....

Ian · 21st April 2024, 05:12 AM

Sending via eBay and others Global Shipping Programs is indeed problematic fro Australia also. However, another egregious policy makes it difficult to not use the GSP. If you ship via the site's shipping programs, either locally or internationally, you don't get paid until the item is actually received at the other end. If you ship privately, there is a further delay until eBay confirms that the item has actually been received.

Buying internationally at auction is another can of worms, especially buying from the U.K. Unless you are buying several items, the postage to Australia will likely exceed the cost of a single item, sometimes by 3–4 times.

RAMBA · 21st April 2024, 06:26 AM

Anything that may appear on these pages will be a restricted item with the Ebay Global Shipping Program T and Cs. Been like that for a long time. There is a very long list of GSP restricted items. Read all the issues with items being termed restricted by the GSP and confiscated. There is NO recourse. Heard of Japanese swords of some value being caught up in this. They do not consider the fact that you can't go buy another one like a pair of shoes.

It has nothing to do with your own countries laws etc.

Happened to me with a kukri from the UK. Advice is do not buy if seller is using GSP or have it shipped to a contact in USA/UK etc if you have one.

The seller may not even be aware that the GSP is being offered internationally and the T and Cs of the GSP. Apparently GSP is the default and has to be changed. Ebay don't mind you offering the item even through the GSP will mean it will be confiscated and sold locally.

corrado26 · 21st April 2024, 07:44 AM

All this are the reasons why I never buy items outside the EU!!!

milandro · 21st April 2024, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

All this are the reasons why I never buy items outside the EU!!!

the problem is the Global Shipping Program not the countries they come from or where they are going to.

I have bought from Indonesia and sold to the UK for example, there was no problem other than choosing the vector from Indonesia because it had to be One rather than the other because DHL (if memory serves) refuses (their own prerogative) to ship blades which FedEx or perhaps it was UPS doesn't .

I sold to the UK several times and sent things without any problem simply by postal parcel.

Buying from outside the EU only results in a problem of paying VAT and a mysterious handling through customs fee (different for each vector)

One doesn't need to use the GSP, anyone can do this (from the Netherlands) with the post and all you have to do is to go on line on your Post.nl account and follow this procedure.

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Beste heer, mevrouw,

Verstuur je weleens goederen naar de Verenigde Staten? Dan verandert er binnenkort iets voor jou. Vanaf 18 februari moet je deze zendingen namelijk vooraf online aanmelden en frankeren. Dit kan niet meer bij een PostNL-punt. We vertellen je graag hoe het werkt.

Waarom online aanmelden en frankeren?
De internationale regelgeving voor het versturen van goederen is strenger geworden. Daarom accepteert de VS alleen nog goederen vanuit het buitenland als ze van tevoren weten wat er inzit. Deze gegevens willen ze digitaal ontvangen. Dat betekent dat je je zending vooraf online moet aanmelden en betalen. Het is belangrijk dat je dit doet. Anders stuurt de VS je zending retour afzender.

Hoe werkt het?
Online frankeren heb je zo gedaan:
1. Ga naar jouw account.
2. Kies de VS als land van bestemming. Vul de gegevens in.
3. Onderaan staat de douaneverklaring klaar. Vul deze ook in.
4. Betaal online.
5. Print het verzendlabel inclusief douanegegevens. Of laat deze printen bij een PostNL-punt.
6. Geef het pakket af bij een PostNL-punt.

Meer weten? Lees verder op onze website.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Het team van PostNL...."

Sajen · 21st April 2024, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

If you ship privately, there is a further delay until eBay confirms that the item has actually been received.

Hi Ian,

Thats not true! As an ebay seller I know that this is not true. I get my money within a few days after the buyer pays.

Regards,
Detlef

Lee · 21st April 2024, 11:03 PM

Back when I was selling Lew's collection largely through eBay, I would spend a lot of time on the official eBay seller's and shipping forums, and one could find a lot of horror stories there about the GSP. Apparently, the contractor providing the service (Pitney-Bowes at the time, if I remember correctly) would often unwrap the parcels sent via their hub, inspect and repackage - sometimes with unhappy results (think nihonto) besides the inherent delay and increased costs. An occasional strangely routed or waylaid and thus delayed shipment aside, I never had serious difficulties directly sending using the Postal Service's International Priority Mail service.

Ian · 22nd April 2024, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hi Ian,

Thats not true! As an ebay seller I know that this is not true. I get my money within a few days after the buyer pays.

Regards,
Detlef

Then Australian eBay (ebay.com.au) must operate under a different set of rules. I only get paid once the delivery has been confirmed, whether locally or internationally.

Sajen · 22nd April 2024, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Then Australian eBay (ebay.com.au) must operate under a different set of rules. I only get paid once the delivery has been confirmed, whether locally or internationally.

So you have to wait for your money for over one month when you ship to Europe? Crazy!!

milandro · 22nd April 2024, 09:27 AM

are you sure you didn't chose to be paid once a month? You can chose this and maybe you have chosen this by mistake or it was chosen for you when things have been updated

Payments are immediately or at most available in two days

https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/pa...s-and-earnings

Ian · 22nd April 2024, 01:17 PM

I am scheduled to be paid daily by eBay. Next time I post an item to a buyer, I shall take a screen shot of the eBay message that says I will be paid following completion of delivery.

gp · 22nd April 2024, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

I am scheduled to be paid daily by eBay. Next time I post an item to a buyer, I shall take a screen shot of the eBay message that says I will be paid following completion of delivery.

Might it be that you are maybe related to that odda bushbanger Kelly (Ned) …?

Jokes aside..perhaps eBay has different rules and or settings in or for different regions.

I noticed as a user/ buyer when logging in on ebay.nl versus other accounts on de, fr, it , co.uk or com….even prices differ quite a lot or availability of products…

21st April 2024, 06:26 AM	#2
RAMBA Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 98	Anything that may appear on these pages will be a restricted item with the Ebay Global Shipping Program T and Cs. Been like that for a long time. There is a very long list of GSP restricted items. Read all the issues with items being termed restricted by the GSP and confiscated. There is NO recourse. Heard of Japanese swords of some value being caught up in this. They do not consider the fact that you can't go buy another one like a pair of shoes. It has nothing to do with your own countries laws etc. Happened to me with a kukri from the UK. Advice is do not buy if seller is using GSP or have it shipped to a contact in USA/UK etc if you have one. The seller may not even be aware that the GSP is being offered internationally and the T and Cs of the GSP. Apparently GSP is the default and has to be changed. Ebay don't mind you offering the item even through the GSP will mean it will be confiscated and sold locally. Last edited by RAMBA; 21st April 2024 at 06:42 AM.

21st April 2024, 05:12 AM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,041	Sending via eBay and others Global Shipping Programs is indeed problematic fro Australia also. However, another egregious policy makes it difficult to not use the GSP. If you ship via the site's shipping programs, either locally or internationally, you don't get paid until the item is actually received at the other end. If you ship privately, there is a further delay until eBay confirms that the item has actually been received. Buying internationally at auction is another can of worms, especially buying from the U.K. Unless you are buying several items, the postage to Australia will likely exceed the cost of a single item, sometimes by 3–4 times.

21st April 2024, 07:44 AM	#3
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,171	All this are the reasons why I never buy items outside the EU!!!

21st April 2024, 11:03 PM	#6
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 896	Back when I was selling Lew's collection largely through eBay, I would spend a lot of time on the official eBay seller's and shipping forums, and one could find a lot of horror stories there about the GSP. Apparently, the contractor providing the service (Pitney-Bowes at the time, if I remember correctly) would often unwrap the parcels sent via their hub, inspect and repackage - sometimes with unhappy results (think nihonto) besides the inherent delay and increased costs. An occasional strangely routed or waylaid and thus delayed shipment aside, I never had serious difficulties directly sending using the Postal Service's International Priority Mail service.

22nd April 2024, 09:27 AM	#9
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 421	are you sure you didn't chose to be paid once a month? You can chose this and maybe you have chosen this by mistake or it was chosen for you when things have been updated Payments are immediately or at most available in two days https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/pa...s-and-earnings

22nd April 2024, 01:17 PM	#10
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,041	I am scheduled to be paid daily by eBay. Next time I post an item to a buyer, I shall take a screen shot of the eBay message that says I will be paid following completion of delivery.