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Old 3rd April 2006, 11:43 AM   #91
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Seems an interesting group. One of the curiosities, at least to me, of language distributions in the Philippines today is that the main language on Palawan is Tagalog. Now Tagalog is the language of the major group on Luzon, but it is a fair distance from Luzon to Palawan, and parts of the Visayas are in between. When I ask locals why Tagalog is spoken on Palawan, they simply say it is part of the Tagalog Region. Anyone have a more specific answer?


interesting, ian. didn't know that the predominant dialect over there is tagalog. i always assumed that since it's in the same latitude as the visayan region, a variant of the visayan dialect would be spoken there....
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Old 12th April 2006, 03:44 PM   #92
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Not a weapon but still interesting. Ifugao, very fine and tight weaving probably early 20th century.
Only Kankanaey and Bontoc have anthropomorphic figures on tangkil. Gaddang, Itneg and Kalinga have simple protrusions of wood/hair, but for the Ifugao the tusks are left bare, as far as I know...
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Old 12th April 2006, 03:47 PM   #93
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Thank you very much for your comments on the armband and for the information that you offer. I'm looking forward to receiving it. I found this picture somewhere but don't remember where. It's not the best quality but it does show an armband with a bulul. Thanks again.

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The photograph is by Eduardo Massferré, taken in Sagada, Mountain Province, ca. 1950
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Old 15th April 2006, 07:59 PM   #94
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A Philippine tabak, late-19th or early-20th C.

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Old 15th April 2006, 09:39 PM   #95
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Nice Ian, I have a similar piece.
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Old 12th May 2006, 07:13 PM   #96
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"odd" gardening tool found in a shed...
talk about the luck o' the irish...
but i'm not irish...
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Old 12th May 2006, 10:32 PM   #97
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I'd like to see this shed...
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Old 17th May 2006, 03:23 AM   #98
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Danganan Kris with blade of sulu origin. 18th c. low grade silver kakatua and banati tagub (mindanao ???) appears to be of later addition, perhaps 19th c. OAL = 26". blade = 21"
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Old 17th May 2006, 03:25 PM   #99
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Danganan Kris with blade of sulu origin. 18th c. low grade silver kakatua and banati tagub (mindanao ???) appears to be of later addition, perhaps 19th c. OAL = 26". blade = 21"

Wow! that's a beautiful kris Spunger good catch.
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Old 17th May 2006, 07:47 PM   #100
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I'm a new member,love this idea......
Here's mine,came in today...
Leka tribe from Congo.1900.
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Old 17th May 2006, 09:40 PM   #101
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Old 18th May 2006, 01:03 AM   #102
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Spunger, according to Cato's classifications, your kris might be more Sulu due to the trunk area and the noticible lack of any okir.
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Old 18th May 2006, 01:08 AM   #103
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hi battara.. right you are. the blade has all the sulu characteristic. what i'm wondering about are the hilt and tagub's origin; whether it's mindanao or sulu..
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Old 18th May 2006, 02:15 AM   #104
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Welcome to the forum.

Nice keris, but you should turn the ukiran (hilt) to the other side.

Bear in mind though, that the position of the hilt relative to the scabbard is a convention that may vary from area to area.
For instance, Surakarta and Yogyakarta strictly observe the convention of the hilt being parallel to the scabbard and facing the short end of the crosspiece.
Madura and Bali on the other hand, have their hilts either at an angle to the scabbard and in the direction of the short end of the crosspiece, or, as for Surakarta and Yogyakarta.
As a matter of fact, I have seen kerises from Malaysia, where the hilts are as in the above picture, parallel to the scabbard and facing the long end of the cross piece.
Even in the Moro kris, one can find the hilts parallel to the scabbard and facing either the short end or the long end of the crosspiece.
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Old 20th May 2006, 03:50 AM   #105
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I posted this Rencong a few weeks back on another thread but not a peep was heard, I like it so much I am posting it again.
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Old 20th May 2006, 06:40 AM   #106
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hi drdavid, love the rencong, here's my horn version:

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Old 21st May 2006, 11:36 PM   #107
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I've had this for a little while but just got around to taking some pictures.





A mid Qing period jian in decent shape, the guard is particularly nice while the pommel is a bit rough in construction. Overall dark chocolate patina which makes photographing a bit of a bummer.

You can see the rest of the pics I have of it here:
http://esnips.com/web/inormsPhotos
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Old 27th August 2006, 11:33 PM   #108
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A recent pick up.
OAL 21.5", Blade 13.5"
Like Bill's huge Panabas, this is also a published piece.
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Old 28th August 2006, 12:00 AM   #109
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Old 28th August 2006, 07:53 PM   #110
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A recent pick up.
OAL 21.5", Blade 13.5"
Like Bill's huge Panabas, this is also a published piece.
Thanks Kino. your pictures are very helpful. I assume that you mean that this is in Cato's book (besides looking familiar). These closeup pictures are wonderful. Maraming Salamat.

BTW - what is the "28" about?

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Old 28th August 2006, 09:01 PM   #111
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Oh, and of course my latest acquistion :

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ebone+kampilan
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Thanks Kino. your pictures are very helpful. I assume that you mean that this is in Cato's book (besides looking familiar). These closeup pictures are wonderful. Maraming Salamat.

BTW - what is the "28" about?
Way sapayan, B. Yes it's in Cato' book & in Arts of Asia magazine.

I don't know what the "28" means. I noticed it when I was cleaning the blade.

Let me know if you have problems in securing the whale bone. I know of someone that deals in Ivory (marine, elephant, fossil), and others of related
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Nice catch on the Kamp.
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Old 29th August 2006, 02:26 AM   #113
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Here is my last purchase.

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Old 4th September 2006, 11:11 AM   #114
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Nice stick 28 inches.
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Old 4th September 2006, 11:13 AM   #115
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Nice stick 28 inches.
Zulu? Swazi?
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Old 4th September 2006, 05:14 PM   #116
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hi drdavid, love the rencong, here's my horn version:
hmm, you have a wonderfull canggei rencong kronckrew, the hilt & the scabbard made from white horn, i guest. thanks for share with all of us here
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Old 4th September 2006, 05:15 PM   #117
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Hi all
I posted this Rencong a few weeks back on another thread but not a peep was heard, I like it so much I am posting it again.
cheers
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wow.. what a beutifull pieces you have congrat mate
is it a elephant tusk for the hilt and the scabbard ?
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Old 4th September 2006, 05:23 PM   #118
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Hello Bill,

Where it comes from is a little hard to be sure of. The seller had a very similar but much longer, a staff but damaged, with leather covering the ball part. The stitched leather work reminded me of West African work and as I have another long twisted baton from West Africa I am inclined to think this may well be from those parts rather than the south. Just guess work, nice old one.
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Old 18th September 2006, 03:57 AM   #119
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Just wanted to share my newest acquisitions.
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Old 18th September 2006, 12:21 PM   #120
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nice! i was saving for the the one on the very top, lol, but at the rate i was going, i had 33 months to go. glad it went to you, tho...
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