fancy ottoman dagger with corals...

francantolin · 18th March 2021, 09:31 PM

Hello dear members,

I wanted to show you this dagger,
A mix betwwen wonderful components and average stuff:

set with ciselled drop shaped corals and turquoises,
many pieces are missing, maybe later emplacements with green glass beads ?
The blade is just a steel sheet deco piece but is engraved

The work on the drop shaped corals is ottoman work for me.

I found on an old forum's post that these pieces are considered to come from India but I never saw the mix of corals and turquoises in India ( Tibet, Nepal ok ) and this kind of work on corals is not recent cheap tourist stuff and ottoman for me ( late 19th century ?? )

francantolin · 18th March 2021, 09:35 PM

Just ottoman,
yes, until we see the tip who isn't turkish at all...

francantolin · 18th March 2021, 09:39 PM

The tip is well done too
+ other picture

Were these deco weapons made for house decorations ?
wedding gift for the husband in a marriage ... ?

francantolin · 18th March 2021, 09:40 PM

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Kubur · 19th March 2021, 07:42 AM

Hi my friend,

As you said, you like "bling bling" things.

I have a good news and a bad news.
IMOH it is Ottoman. But most probably early 20th c. 1900-1920.
Like a lot of Indian and Persian daggers on this forum, and as you said, most probably decorative.
I don't want to say tourist item, but for sure some Europeans bought some of them as they are very decorative.
We have a full thread about your dagger but I cannot find it.
Your dagger is probably in tombak and the style is very much Ottoman Turkish.
Please look at similar items from the late 19th and early 20th.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...rquoises+coral

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=coral

Kind regards,
Kubur

francantolin · 19th March 2021, 05:26 PM

Hello,
Thank you Kubur for your comments and links,
I hesitate to take all the pieces and transfer it on a kilij I have,
If I can get that price

,
maybe I have piece enough for the the backside !!

Seriously, I find strange that this wonderful piece sold by Christies was ''just''made of gilt copper and not a massive silver scabbard, gold...

18th March 2021, 09:31 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 817	fancy ottoman dagger with corals... Hello dear members, I wanted to show you this dagger, A mix betwwen wonderful components and average stuff: set with ciselled drop shaped corals and turquoises, many pieces are missing, maybe later emplacements with green glass beads ? The blade is just a steel sheet deco piece but is engraved The work on the drop shaped corals is ottoman work for me. I found on an old forum's post that these pieces are considered to come from India but I never saw the mix of corals and turquoises in India ( Tibet, Nepal ok ) and this kind of work on corals is not recent cheap tourist stuff and ottoman for me ( late 19th century ?? ) Attached Images

18th March 2021, 09:35 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 817	Just ottoman, yes, until we see the tip who isn't turkish at all... Attached Images

18th March 2021, 09:40 PM	#4
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 817	.... Attached Images

18th March 2021, 09:39 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 817	The tip is well done too + other picture Were these deco weapons made for house decorations ? wedding gift for the husband in a marriage ... ?

19th March 2021, 07:42 AM	#5
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi my friend, As you said, you like "bling bling" things. I have a good news and a bad news. IMOH it is Ottoman. But most probably early 20th c. 1900-1920. Like a lot of Indian and Persian daggers on this forum, and as you said, most probably decorative. I don't want to say tourist item, but for sure some Europeans bought some of them as they are very decorative. We have a full thread about your dagger but I cannot find it. Your dagger is probably in tombak and the style is very much Ottoman Turkish. Please look at similar items from the late 19th and early 20th. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...rquoises+coral http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=coral Kind regards, Kubur

19th March 2021, 05:26 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 817	Hello, Thank you Kubur for your comments and links, I hesitate to take all the pieces and transfer it on a kilij I have, If I can get that price , maybe I have piece enough for the the backside !! Seriously, I find strange that this wonderful piece sold by Christies was ''just''made of gilt copper and not a massive silver scabbard, gold...