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7th December 2022, 12:29 AM | #1 |
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Could you post more pics of the hilt?
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7th December 2022, 07:52 PM | #2 |
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I guess that is a nice 16th century Dussagge South German or Austrian possibly. Sadly without pommel. Nice piece
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7th December 2022, 10:05 PM | #3 |
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8th December 2022, 03:15 AM | #4 |
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I read ME FECIT IOHANNE (Made by Johannes) ANNO DOMINI (in the year of our Lord ....).
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8th December 2022, 11:29 AM | #5 |
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Most interesting 'dusagge' and strongly resembling these types often seen from 17th into as late as 18th century in the Netherlands, but it seems the Dutch forms have obverse thumb ring on the hilt. As noted, these types of sabers/cutlasses were well known throughout Germany (from about mid 16th c. with these kinds of shell guards *) and Northern Europe. I believe in Norway sabers of this type were termed 'tessak'.
The alternating quillons of the guard seem to have notable variation in the numerous examples seen. I think these are one of the most desirable early forms as they are most typically associated with sea service and as cutlasses, in many cases seen in pirate lore. In fact, in the lexicon of piracy, the term 'shell' is loosely noted as referring to a cutlass. Even without the rest of the hilt, this is an attractive and keenly representative example, and in the rugged condition these are often found. I am particularly intrigued by the interestingly adapted inscription, similar to many seen on Solingen blades, and the rougher than usual lettering. If I understand correctly, ANNO DOMINI (=in the year of our Lord) should have a year with it, so curious if that is no longer distinguishable. * "European Weapons and Armour", E.Oakeshott, 1980, p.155, fig.67 Last edited by Jim McDougall; 8th December 2022 at 11:44 AM. |
9th December 2022, 12:36 PM | #6 |
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it seems to me a recent reproduction, patinated and aged.
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9th December 2022, 04:03 PM | #7 |
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Well noted, and as I mentioned, the 'inscription' is rather unbelievable.
While disappointing of course, at least a chance to examine this type of sword as a form, and see an example of the kinds of 'interpretations' that are out there. |
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