Enquiry about a Bali keris motif

JoeCanada42 · 15th March 2023, 06:38 AM

what a cool sword,
so very very interesting...

milandro · 15th March 2023, 09:09 AM

I think the first link isn't displaying the way it should , I've tried to help but returns the same result ( it asks did you mean Did you mean: Yali (mythology)? and you have to click that one)

this is a rather more elaborate page

https://viluptduniya.wordpress.com/2...the-protector/

A. G. Maisey · 15th March 2023, 12:48 PM

The idea of "Yali" is certainly a part of Hindu mythology, there are a number of different types of Yali, and they serve a number of different functions, they also have a number different names.

However, Bali-Hindu is not mainstream Hindu.

I do not recognise this figure under discussion, I do not know of the representation of Yali in any of its forms in Balinese art or mythology. This does not mean that such representation does not exist, it only means that I have not encountered it in Bali, and I feel that if it does exist in Bali, I probably should have encountered it.

From what we can see of this blade, it does appear to have some age, but looks in an image on a screen can be very deceptive.

My current feeling is that we might be looking at a comparatively recent artistic essay here, possibly Bali, more likely Lombok, and I do not think it is from East Jawa/Madura.

By "comparatively recent" I mean within the last 100 years or so.

The above cannot be read as an opinion, it is comment that might hopefully lead to further discussion.

15th March 2023, 06:38 AM	#1
JoeCanada42 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 259	what a cool sword, so very very interesting...

15th March 2023, 09:09 AM	#2
milandro Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Netherlands Posts: 423	I think the first link isn't displaying the way it should , I've tried to help but returns the same result ( it asks did you mean Did you mean: Yali (mythology)? and you have to click that one) this is a rather more elaborate page https://viluptduniya.wordpress.com/2...the-protector/

15th March 2023, 12:48 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,751	The idea of "Yali" is certainly a part of Hindu mythology, there are a number of different types of Yali, and they serve a number of different functions, they also have a number different names. However, Bali-Hindu is not mainstream Hindu. I do not recognise this figure under discussion, I do not know of the representation of Yali in any of its forms in Balinese art or mythology. This does not mean that such representation does not exist, it only means that I have not encountered it in Bali, and I feel that if it does exist in Bali, I probably should have encountered it. From what we can see of this blade, it does appear to have some age, but looks in an image on a screen can be very deceptive. My current feeling is that we might be looking at a comparatively recent artistic essay here, possibly Bali, more likely Lombok, and I do not think it is from East Jawa/Madura. By "comparatively recent" I mean within the last 100 years or so. The above cannot be read as an opinion, it is comment that might hopefully lead to further discussion.