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Old 3rd April 2006, 07:54 AM   #1
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It is the makers mark. Common in yataghans with good blades
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Old 3rd April 2006, 08:44 PM   #2
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It is the makers mark. Common in yataghans with good blades
Do you mean as in a maker, or as a general practice by all makers; and, if the latter, has anyone tried to catalog them?

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Do you mean as in a maker, or as a general practice by all makers; and, if the latter, has anyone tried to catalog them?

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Astvatsaturjan has a number of them for caucasian makers; however, they are very often too alike to each other (typically "heart" or "vase" with some arabic insription) to reliably distinguish them. Another kind of stamp is an arsenal mark, but since there were only 2-3 large armories in the middle east that samped their items, those are somewhat rare.
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Old 3rd April 2006, 10:21 PM   #4
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Astvatsaturjan has a number of them for caucasian makers; however, they are very often too alike to each other (typically "heart" or "vase" with some arabic insription) to reliably distinguish them. Another kind of stamp is an arsenal mark, but since there were only 2-3 large armories in the middle east that samped their items, those are somewhat rare.
It would seem pointless to go through the trouble of marking a blade if the end result is indistinguishable. I wonder if these marks may have been associated more with a maker's guild rather then individual makers.

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Old 3rd April 2006, 11:24 PM   #5
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In this particular sword the mark is very clear. I have seen many others where you cannot figure out what they show.
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Old 4th April 2006, 01:42 AM   #6
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The usualy story is that people are trying to put too long signatures in their marks - as a result it is somewhat unclear what you have -"all", "mu" or "s". Taking into account that these marks tend to wear off, many of them are completely unintelligable.

Most of them are not guilds, they are usually something like "Amal Muhammed" - made by Muhammed.

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It would seem pointless to go through the trouble of marking a blade if the end result is indistinguishable. I wonder if these marks may have been associated more with a maker's guild rather then individual makers.

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Old 4th April 2006, 02:53 AM   #7
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Isn't it a date in the middle of the Solomon's Star? 1215?
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