Keris with „sickleshape-blade“ for comments

[Jean]

See what a jambiya from Yemen looks like in comparison.
Regards

[Amuk Murugul]

Originally Posted by Jean

See what a jambiya from Yemen looks like in comparison.
Regards

Hullo Jean,

Just thought I'd add this link to a southern Kalamantan djambia for comparison:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...987#post243987

Best,

[kai]

Hullo AM,

I believe you meant this posting of yours?
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...22&postcount=5

Regards,
Kai

[Amuk Murugul]

Originally Posted by kai

Hullo AM,

I believe you meant this posting of yours?
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...22&postcount=5

Regards,
Kai

Hullo Kai,

Thanks! Yes, that's what I meant.
I'm rather tech-challenged; after a few tries to do what I wanted, I gave up and did what I could.
Thanks again.

I managed to track one down again; posting a pic (with apologies to the owner).

Best

[David]

Well, my own personal viewpoint on whether or not this should be considered a keris should carry little weight in the community at large, but i see this much more as a keris than i do a jambiyo. I mean, everything else that one would expect from a keris is there except for the curvature of the blade. At the same time, certainly the curvature alone cannot qualify a blade as a jambiyo any more than a wavy luk blade can qualify a blade as a keris without the other recognized elements that make up a keris.
The blade looks genuinely old and the curve looks intentional and original to me. Certainly this is out of pakem, and i do realize that for some any keris dhapur that is outside of pakem is not a true keris. But i would happily accept this particular example into my family of keris and would consider it one, albeit a strange bird in the flock.

[A. G. Maisey]

Possibly the question of whether something is a keris or is not a keris is a question of perspective. For some people it might be a matter of compliance with one or another pakem, for others it might be a matter compliance with certain spiritual or esoteric factors.

[David]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Possibly the question of whether something is a keris or is not a keris is a question of perspective. For some people it might be a matter of compliance with one or another pakem, for others it might be a matter compliance with certain spiritual or esoteric factors.

Fully agree.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by David

Well, my own personal viewpoint on whether or not this should be considered a keris should carry little weight in the community at large, but i see this much more as a keris than i do a jambiyo. I mean, everything else that one would expect from a keris is there except for the curvature of the blade. At the same time, certainly the curvature alone cannot qualify a blade as a jambiyo any more than a wavy luk blade can qualify a blade as a keris without the other recognized elements that make up a keris.
The blade looks genuinely old and the curve looks intentional and original to me. Certainly this is out of pakem, and i do realize that for some any keris dhapur that is outside of pakem is not a true keris. But i would happily accept this particular example into my family of keris and would consider it one, albeit a strange bird in the flock.

David,
Being also a collector of jambiyas and khanjars from the Middle-East, I fully concur with your opinion although I would accept that this kris has a "dapur jambiya"
Regards

[David]

I can see that Jean.