Powder flask from Afghanistan

stenoyab · 31st August 2018, 02:05 PM

Heres one I have, sadly missing a few parts.

ariel · 31st August 2018, 03:07 PM

Interesting that Jonathan Barrett, a well-known expert in Oriental arms ( I still remember his invited lecture on Indian sword hilts in Timonium) defines both his examples as Indian, not Afghani. Strangely, I could not find anything similar in Oliver’s book.
Where would you place yours?

stenoyab · 31st August 2018, 04:20 PM

I'd be vague and say Northern India/Afghan, as I assume its more a tribal design ?

mahratt · 31st August 2018, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stenoyab

I'd be vague and say Northern India/Afghan, as I assume its more a tribal design ?

I completely agree with you.

1) this is undoubtedly a tribal design of different levels of complexity
2) several similar powder flasks were sold at a well-known auction and were attributed to Afghanistan (here is one of them):
https://www.hermann-historica.de/en/...&currentpos=34
3) my powder flask of this type was brought to me from Kabul. And the man who brought her to me, said that he saw on the bazaar in Kabul more than a few powder flasks of this type.

Dima

P.S. There are other examples that show that these powder flasks are from Afghanistan. Such as this:

mahratt · 31st August 2018, 08:59 PM

Kubur, thanks again! I looked book of the respected Oliver Pincio. He also writes that the powder flasks we are discussing were made in Afghanistan.

mahratt · 1st September 2018, 08:29 AM

Dear forum participants, does anyone else have in the collection such powder flasks?

rickystl · 1st September 2018, 04:50 PM

Hi Mahratt

I thought I one. But after searching for a while, I guess I don't. Although I've seen this style before. I tried to buy one off a seller on ebay about a year ago. But he wanted too much money for it and wouldn't budge. So I passed on it.
Would like to own one to see how they actually worked. It's an unusual design for a powder flask.

I was always under the impression these were Afghan origin. The workmanship is similar. I've seen them on more than one Afghan rifleman's belts such as the beautiful one posted above.

Rick

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ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Interesting that Jonathan Barrett, a well-known expert in Oriental arms ( I still remember his invited lecture on Indian sword hilts in Timonium) defines both his examples as Indian, not Afghani. Strangely, I could not find anything similar in Oliver’s book. Where would you place yours? Last edited by ariel; 31st August 2018 at 03:54 PM.

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mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	Kubur, thanks again! I looked book of the respected Oliver Pincio. He also writes that the powder flasks we are discussing were made in Afghanistan. Attached Images

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stenoyab Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43	I'd be vague and say Northern India/Afghan, as I assume its more a tribal design ?

1st September 2018, 08:29 AM	#6
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	Dear forum participants, does anyone else have in the collection such powder flasks?

1st September 2018, 04:50 PM	#7
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,621	Hi Mahratt I thought I one. But after searching for a while, I guess I don't. Although I've seen this style before. I tried to buy one off a seller on ebay about a year ago. But he wanted too much money for it and wouldn't budge. So I passed on it. Would like to own one to see how they actually worked. It's an unusual design for a powder flask. I was always under the impression these were Afghan origin. The workmanship is similar. I've seen them on more than one Afghan rifleman's belts such as the beautiful one posted above. Rick