Bosnian Bichaq

gp · 9th November 2020, 07:46 PM

and now something else...

a very nice overview containing some Ottoman cold weapons:

http://www.banatheritage.com/english...s/ColdArms.pdf

G. Mansfield · 10th November 2020, 07:39 PM

GP and others, I too have had experience with the questionable practices of this auction house when I had "won" an item in their online contest but never received the item. Previously to that, I had no issues the one other time using their services during an auction. I am not here to bash, but just beware, read reviews and use best judgment with this auction house when considering.

Anyway, here is my Bosnian Bichaq for the thread record. A larger example at 37cm total, and 37,5cm in sheath. This was purchased from Lew's estate sale a few years back.

-Geoff

gp · 12th November 2020, 07:55 PM

nice one Geoff !

just received my smallest bichaq ever

which made up 10 times my auction experience and "lost" lot

total length 18 cm
blade 10 cm
ferrule 1 cm and steel; unlike all others which are copper, this one is part of or tied to the blade
handle. grip 7 cm
scabbard 13,5 cm

it clearly differs from the "cutlery" knives (who are without scabbard anyway) and I never saw one like his before.

Perhaps an apprentice piece or just show of mastership,
who nows....

Your thoughts please..

much obliged !

Gunar

gp · 20th February 2021, 01:03 PM

my recent addition is a strange one as I only found 2 bichaqs which came close. First of all its dimensions:

total length 35 cm
blade: 22 cm
ferrule 2 cm
handle: 11 cm

gp · 20th February 2021, 01:07 PM

the "strangeness" is in the grip: I only saw a similar-ish placed here by member Valjhun in 2008 and by a US seller ( the latter with regards to the ferrule)

The top of the handle is very nicely worked with plural symbols, although both examples lack the redish dots which mine has.
Also for the first time I see the half-cirlce with dots in the ferrule ( poorly in mine but very well in the enclosed picture to be seen).

Any one has seen this semi-circle before ?

gp · 20th February 2021, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gp

my recent addition is a strange one as I only found 2 bichaqs which came close. First of all its dimensions:

total length 35 cm
blade: 22 cm
ferrule 2 cm
handle: 11 cm

the blade has a double mark. Normally with the longer bichaqs one sees a double "f" ( versus a single "f" for a normal size bichaq ), but this one has 2 different ones on 1 blade: I never met 2 different ones on 1 blade before as well. Did any of you have one or has seen one with both marks together on 1 blade?

Battara · 20th February 2021, 07:00 PM

Not yet.

The "f" is a stylized shamshir.

gp · 20th February 2021, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

Not yet.

The "f" is a stylized shamshir.

Yep, thank you. Actually a kılıç or also sometimes called kilij, being the Bosnian and Ottoman name for it ( meaning sword). Remains strange to have the shamshir / kılıç together with the other mark

I know them to be seperate on a blade but not combined...

9th November 2020, 07:46 PM	#1
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	and now something else... a very nice overview containing some Ottoman cold weapons: http://www.banatheritage.com/english...s/ColdArms.pdf Last edited by gp; 9th November 2020 at 08:00 PM.

10th November 2020, 07:39 PM	#2
G. Mansfield Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Posts: 78	GP and others, I too have had experience with the questionable practices of this auction house when I had "won" an item in their online contest but never received the item. Previously to that, I had no issues the one other time using their services during an auction. I am not here to bash, but just beware, read reviews and use best judgment with this auction house when considering. Anyway, here is my Bosnian Bichaq for the thread record. A larger example at 37cm total, and 37,5cm in sheath. This was purchased from Lew's estate sale a few years back. -Geoff Attached Images

12th November 2020, 07:55 PM	#3
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	nice one Geoff ! just received my smallest bichaq ever which made up 10 times my auction experience and "lost" lot total length 18 cm blade 10 cm ferrule 1 cm and steel; unlike all others which are copper, this one is part of or tied to the blade handle. grip 7 cm scabbard 13,5 cm it clearly differs from the "cutlery" knives (who are without scabbard anyway) and I never saw one like his before. Perhaps an apprentice piece or just show of mastership, who nows.... Your thoughts please.. much obliged ! Gunar Attached Images Last edited by gp; 12th November 2020 at 08:55 PM.

20th February 2021, 01:03 PM	#4
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	my recent addition is a strange one as I only found 2 bichaqs which came close. First of all its dimensions: total length 35 cm blade: 22 cm ferrule 2 cm handle: 11 cm Attached Images

20th February 2021, 01:07 PM	#5
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 668	the "strangeness" is in the grip: I only saw a similar-ish placed here by member Valjhun in 2008 and by a US seller ( the latter with regards to the ferrule) The top of the handle is very nicely worked with plural symbols, although both examples lack the redish dots which mine has. Also for the first time I see the half-cirlce with dots in the ferrule ( poorly in mine but very well in the enclosed picture to be seen). Any one has seen this semi-circle before ? Attached Images Last edited by gp; 20th February 2021 at 10:48 PM.

20th February 2021, 07:00 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,141	Not yet. The "f" is a stylized shamshir.