Dating the Schiavons sword

urbanspaceman · 17th April 2023, 11:14 AM

I suspect you are right; on reflection, the missing locket idea probably does not hold up.

Jim McDougall · 17th April 2023, 06:23 PM

This is the first time I have seen this term used for many years, and I knew I had found some curious reference to this many years ago. Unfortunately while I kept images of a leather example of one of these, I did not note the source.

With the metal shield screwed to the bottom of the trellis on the schiavona noted, it does not seem that purpose would be likely, but more in the type of pragmatic lore of the guardapolvo (dust guard) on cup hilt rapiers.

Attached is the admittedly vague reference from one of my very old notebooks, just for comparison.

werecow · 19th April 2023, 03:55 PM

Just noticed that this schiavona also has a guard plate.

17th April 2023, 11:14 AM	#1
urbanspaceman Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Tyneside. North-East England Posts: 520	To lockett or not to lockett I suspect you are right; on reflection, the missing locket idea probably does not hold up.

17th April 2023, 06:23 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,800	Rain Guards This is the first time I have seen this term used for many years, and I knew I had found some curious reference to this many years ago. Unfortunately while I kept images of a leather example of one of these, I did not note the source. With the metal shield screwed to the bottom of the trellis on the schiavona noted, it does not seem that purpose would be likely, but more in the type of pragmatic lore of the guardapolvo (dust guard) on cup hilt rapiers. Attached is the admittedly vague reference from one of my very old notebooks, just for comparison. Attached Images

19th April 2023, 03:55 PM	#3
werecow Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Leiden, NL Posts: 437	Just noticed that this schiavona also has a guard plate.